[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

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Wolgart wrote:

this build , " HP- SRS Summoner Templar Version" is viable for standard to the version " HB- SRS Summoner " ?

Both builds are very viable, however if you play Templar and want to do the High Budget Low-Life one (HB-LL), it'll require some outside the box thinking regarding the skilltree as the high budget one i have displayed does not connect with the Templar tree :)

I am currently making a hybrid ES/life SRS build (currently level 83), and i am torn between taking IR or not.
The investment for IR is about additional 6 points (8 points in total, but you wont need to grab +30 dex nodes anymore).
The 6 points will be later translated into cast speed nodes = 24% more cast speed

Without Grace, IR alone gives about 30% physical damage reduction (about 4k armor) and my gear is far from perfect. If i use Grace instead of Anger, i have 49% damage reduction (about 10k armor)
Not so sure if this is a fair trade-off....defense vs offense
Auras run by me are Hatred, Haste, Anger/PoF (or Grace), and Clarity (on Life), and of course arctic armor (using dream fragments and atziri foible to sustain mana drained)

Normal Version level 91 build:



IR Version level 91 build:



I found the +ES recovery speed modes are somehow very important, since these will cut the recovery time from 6 secs to 3.5 secs.

Any thoughts on this?
Thanks.

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Ghazzy wrote:

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Wolgart wrote:

this build , " HP- SRS Summoner Templar Version" is viable for standard to the version " HB- SRS Summoner " ?

Both builds are very viable, however if you play Templar and want to do the High Budget Low-Life one (HB-LL), it'll require some outside the box thinking regarding the skilltree as the high budget one i have displayed does not connect with the Templar tree :)

it shouldn't be an issue :) a templar low life tree is close to your witch
You lose 20% mana regen or 9% cast speed.
It's not the end of the world.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUATwRDyFugp1V8DmjyfEuvbJZ0TP88LcauHb63PjOHQYcD7vnogsco-tP7DH3r7lfJmK2ofRB_uJMNfFqRxp6nCDLR6rpqrI9GRUe0DB0Um6HAZohARnH60vfXpqyDCeGIFy_MvKyYhEhvnh2qZOeqxHRVXGvKSlXWhWBfKsNtUUzDOoCkTbnr5KxHm7UEB31bGYpMsypN-wlr2y0fRX4_J_ba7IodT5UgDlxKyBqPLJw1ucHzavpuqhFQpytcioIeX5htGYhCWW3ZW8HFHdnPMhsl7BhDVEuucLv0cdkTL2_pAt-KJLDVgQ==/

Or if you don't use grace skip the evasion nodes:

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUATwRDyFugp1V8DmjyfEuvbJZ0TP88LcauHb63PjOHQYcD7vnogsco-tP7DH3r7lfJmK2ofRB_uJMNfFqRxp6nCDLR6rpqrI9GRUe0DB0Um6HAZohARnH60vfXpqyDCeGIFy_MvKyYhEhvnh2qZOeqxHRVXGvKSlXWhWBfKsNtwzqApE256-SbtQQHGYpMs_sJa9stH0V-9trsih1PlSAOXBqPLJw1ucHzavoRUKcrXIqCHm0ZiELZW8HFHdkbJewYQ1RLrnC79HHZEy9vJLDPMlltX5huqrXyNZLYvf4KJNiFbdWB34rpAg==

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Galax201 wrothe:

it shouldn't be an issue :) a templar low life tree is close to your witch
You lose 20% mana regen or 9% cast speed.
It's not the end of the world.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUATwRDyFugp1V8DmjyfEuvbJZ0TP88LcauHb63PjOHQYcD7vnogsco-tP7DH3r7lfJmK2ofRB_uJMNfFqRxp6nCDLR6rpqrI9GRUe0DB0Um6HAZohARnH60vfXpqyDCeGIFy_MvKyYhEhvnh2qZOeqxHRVXGvKSlXWhWBfKsNtUUzDOoCkTbnr5KxHm7UEB31bGYpMsypN-wlr2y0fRX4_J_ba7IodT5UgDlxKyBqPLJw1ucHzavpuqhFQpytcioIeX5htGYhCWW3ZW8HFHdnPMhsl7BhDVEuucLv0cdkTL2_pAt-KJLDVgQ==/

Or if you don't use grace skip the evasion nodes:

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUATwRDyFugp1V8DmjyfEuvbJZ0TP88LcauHb63PjOHQYcD7vnogsco-tP7DH3r7lfJmK2ofRB_uJMNfFqRxp6nCDLR6rpqrI9GRUe0DB0Um6HAZohARnH60vfXpqyDCeGIFy_MvKyYhEhvnh2qZOeqxHRVXGvKSlXWhWBfKsNtwzqApE256-SbtQQHGYpMs_sJa9stH0V-9trsih1PlSAOXBqPLJw1ucHzavoRUKcrXIqCHm0ZiELZW8HFHdkbJewYQ1RLrnC79HHZEy9vJLDPMlltX5huqrXyNZLYvf4KJNiFbdWB34rpAg==

this tree contains 3500+ of energy shield to build the sets and gear equips "Uber Atziri Farming" HB-SRS Summoner Low lF version ?


I'm just trying to make the templar for this build to fit with the equips and gems that build HB srs (atiziri / uber)

You can compare them with the offline skill tree calculator.

Download link:
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases

If i didn't miss something important the templar low life tree gets:
- 9% less cast speed
- 10% more ES (145% increased vs 135% from the witch variant,both tree grants 300 int)

The templar additional ES was a by-product.
For the record you don't need to go out of your way for a small energy shield increase.

To be fair a witch could replace 2 cast speed nodes and reach 147% ES

Long story short, if you have a high level templar you don't need to start from scratch as a witch.

P.S.
re-edited to clarify and include Ghazzy thoughts

Thank you Galax201 for supplying direct fact-based comparisons for us.

Gaining more ES for the Low-Life build doesn't really matter around 10,000 ES and due to recent nerfs (balance at lvl 25+ SRS imo) we must be careful not to lose to much DPS. However 9% cast speed is in the end of calculating all the diminishing returns only a less cast speed of 0.01 seconds (literally).

TL;DR:
I see no problems in the templar tree working just as fine.

thank you (Galax201) and (Ghazzy) for the support.

and here my share (progression of my character)

my status lvl : 46

offence:



defense:



three:



equips:

my set of gems in this identical equips the final build of HB-SRS Summoner

missing only the vall haste and empower.

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Wolgart wrote:

thank you (Galax201) and (Ghazzy) for the support.

I wish you a lot of luck and i'm glad that i could help templars.
:)

Cheers!

I'm looking forward in hearing from you regarding Uber Atziri progress!

hi, i'm following this guide and like it, i have few question:

i'm lv 77 and my skill tree for now is this:

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA2VsbJUuu6QLfim0Za9t9GOyKEVCnKzW5LR8dT0yzBAfr5F8qdFUi9GwLDY0c3H_GwcUV14auLL9WY-wYL2_ZE3C7tAyTJ-q6DXxXyZitKPqCx_noQYdewKBCiFq3PgPuM4cdvjwtxq64k-vugKRV1mTnFy_60h0Uj0anCKasiEBFRzLRwGbGnhB_DH2boffXhWCqxMy8Tbk=

now i want ask what point is better I take first and what later, for now i have a 5l staff +2 fire and 7% cast speed, "bad" ES equip give me with discipline 5,1k shield, i have no problem with mana regen for now (thanks to goldwyrm too) only a little in 50% regen map, i reach max 12 spirit at same time, for now i don't have unique flask, only normal granite and quicksilver, the res is nearly capped and i run discipline, clarity and hatred (with generosity) on mana

all this for help to advise me where put point, I don't have shav for now

in other thread i read that minion damage is better then added fire, is false or depend on build and in this is better added fire?

for now that i have CI melee damage on full life is better then added fire right? (i ask for when i switch for boss)

i tryed to do all mob, even pack of it without splash and instead a damage gem and is not bad but i can't tell for now if is better keep splash or no (i think is better splash because you use it and you are MUCH MORE expert then me xD)