[1.2.] Serge's Ultimate Ball Lightning (3 Versions: EB-MoM-AA / hybrid HP-ES Crit / CI Crit!)

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ComradeSerge wrote:

If you run purity, pop a flask and have at least 1% life leech, you can live through relfect. If you have flask nodes and 2% leech, you can do reflect maps with no problem if you bring more topaz flasks.

Vaal pact is too far away and would be a waste.

You can't compare, cause if CI-crit had mana and life gear, it would be a useless build, i.e. a build with completely wrong gear; vice-versa, if the EB MoM build had ES and crit gear, he would be squishy and lack mana :) I can tell you only that both have very nice clear speed. Crit does a bit more dmg with the right gear though (as he should).

Thanks Serge! You're awesome. I know I'm screwing up your builds now and I'm okay with that since the character isn't long term =)

Here is what I plan, no more long roads and just maximizing my damage and survivability and stopping at 75ish. This below will get me to about 68 and then from here I'll probably just get some random 10% damage nodes or the shock tree up north or even the flask nodes.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAuMFQgceB6UI9A5ID8QQWBEPEZYTnhXnFr8W8x_HJjwmlSepKgsreCycLR8tiy-dOlg7fDvjPV9BlkT7RXxJUUmyTC1Ms1AwUlNVS1XGXfJh4mNDZAlknWpDbRlwUnDVc7N2EXvXfjN-WX6vf8aCEIPbidOKKIw2jRmP-pUglS6Xl5f0oqOkkayYrrO1SLjKvOrAVMHz0PXZX9te3Yzfit-w4BLr9fBr8NXyHfPq

I'm going to dual wield wands (for Dark Arts) and use Tabula Rasa like a complete idiot and hope I survive =)

I can choose between ICD, ICC, FC, LP and Inc AoE for my supports, since I don't get the AoE nodes by templar I think I need to use the Inc AoE for sure. My duo partner is running Conduit and PCoC so I don't need that in there. I'll also have a Life Leech gem for reflect maps.

That said, is there some sort of website that can help figure items out and what masters can put on it?

My wand has (I think) three suffixes and one prefix, leaving me room to put on Lightning Leech (it can go as either Suffix/Prefix, right?). There's no other useful stat I can put on this wand, right? I could essentially exalt spell damage/mana hybrid prefix but that doesn't seem worth it.

Another thing... is dual wielding Divinarius a viable option? A little less spellpower but a lot more crit, the 20% area would be really nice too!

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ComradeSerge wrote:

Haha, thanks for pointing it out :D

You are actually right for Discipline too, I just tested it. 2600 mana unreserved without it, 1600 with it. Ofc, the mana regen drops from 480 to 400, but that isn't a problem at all.

Will edit this.

No problem.

Could you shortly explain the background on Athleticism? I have not much experience with it, but I have looked at what it does:

Atleticism's 5% Buff is worth...
... about 1.2 level speaking of Arctic armour

... about 1 level speaking of Clarity (IF %Buff is multiplicative with Mana Reg%, the aura actually is)

... a few extra res for Purity of Lightning

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Valentia wrote:

Another thing... is dual wielding Divinarius a viable option? A little less spellpower but a lot more crit, the 20% area would be really nice too!

If you'll use life leech gem, dual wielding div is pretty good, yes.

There is no site yet that could help you with that, other than the poe wiki list of mods you can craft. The simplest way is to put the item on the bench and see what you can add.

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rusher21 wrote:

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ComradeSerge wrote:

Haha, thanks for pointing it out :D

You are actually right for Discipline too, I just tested it. 2600 mana unreserved without it, 1600 with it. Ofc, the mana regen drops from 480 to 400, but that isn't a problem at all.

Will edit this.

No problem.

Could you shortly explain the background on Athleticism? I have not much experience with it, but I have looked at what it does:

Atleticism's 5% Buff is worth...
... about 1.2 level speaking of Arctic armour

... about 1 level speaking of Clarity (IF %Buff is multiplicative with Mana Reg%, the aura actually is)

... a few extra res for Purity of Lightning

Yes, in short, it buffs all your auras, but also, since you take reduced mana reservation nodes to get there, it leaves you with more mana for MoM.

Well, I got to 66 last night and ended the day with about 7,000 DPS =) Very fun and very awesome.

Tanky enough so far, too, have about 4k HP/ES and maxed resists... don't usually get hit anyway with how fast things die.

I bought a Divinarius but the tooltip damage was much lower than the wands I have- especially when I get power charges. I'm not sure if the 20% AoE from dual wielding them would make up for that.

One last thing I have a question on. I'm using BL+FC+SE+LP+ICD+IncAoE in my six link and got rid of life leech. I just don't take damage constantly enough to warrant it and my flask is always good enough.

That said, how much life leech is 1% from Catarina? I have these three weapons available and I could add lightning leech, it's just rather expensive.



I also have an aura-bot with me 100% of the time so I have room for a 4L Herald of Ice. I can't decide what to use, though, or if it's even worth the 4L.

Finally, I have this tree:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAuMFQgceB6UI9A5ID8QQWBEPEZYTnhXnFr8W8x_HJjwmlSepKgsreCycLR8tiy-dOlg7fDvjPV9BlkT7RXxJUUmyTC1Ms1AwUlNVS1XGXfJfKmHiY0NkCWSdakNtGXBScNVzs3RVdhF-M35Zfq9_xoIQidOKKIw2jRmP-pUglS6Xl5f0oqOkkayYrrO4ysBUwfPQ9dlf217djN-K37DgEuv18Gvw1fId8-o=

With my last 10 points I will most definitely grab the 5% life node and life%/mana% node. From there I can choose between random 10% damage nodes, the shock side of the north lightning area, the flasks nodes or something else I'm not really sure. How is the Breath of Lightning side now? I don't really know how shock works anymore.

Not sure I understand what you mean with the life leech question. If it's about the price, the leech mod costs 4 chaos. If it's about efficiency, I can say that only 1% life leech enabled me to do reflect packs with my topaz pot up. Without it, I would rip in 1-2 seconds. But this has to be with no other mods that would additionally screw you up, like -max or half regen (because half regen = half leech).

You don't need shock nodes as a crit build. Shock is good for the EB MoM version, but not the crit.

In the tree you can go for a lot of stuff, depending if you want dmg or survivability :) just compare with the tree I linked in the first post.

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ComradeSerge wrote:

I can say that only 1% life leech enabled me to do reflect packs with my topaz pot up. Without it, I would rip in 1-2 seconds. But this has to be with no other mods that would additionally screw you up, like -max or half regen .

This is my current build with four passive points and about 4 respec points open. I don't want to use any regrets:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAuMFQgceB6UI9A5ID8QQWBEPEZYTnhXnFr8W8x_HJjwmlSepKgsreCycLR8tiy-dOlg7fDvjPV9BlkT7RXxJUUmyTC1Ms1AwUlNVS1XGXfJfKmHiY0NkCWSdakNtGXBScNVzs3RVdhF-M35Zfq9_xoIQg9uJ04oojDaNGY_6lSCVLpeXl_Sio6SRrJius7jKvOrAVMHz0PXZX9te3Yzfit-w4BLr9fBr8NXyHfPq


Thanks again!

The info on the life leech is exactly what I wanted to know!

My DPS is about 10,000 now with charges up now too =) I love it- pretty much everything gets one shot- even bosses if I crit my first couple BL's.

The last points I was talking about I really can't decide but I've broken them down for level 88:

First Route - Templar area with Athleticism (works great with my 11 aura-bot friend)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAuMFQgceB6UI9A5ID8QQWBEPEZYTnhXnFm8WvxbzGjgabB_HJKomPCaVJ6kpTyoLK3gsnC0fLYsvnTbpOlg7fDvjPV9BlkT7RXxJUUmyTC1Ms1AwUlNVS1XGXfJfKmHiY0NkCWSdakNtGXBScNVzs3RVdhF-M35Zfq9_xoIQg9uFfYnTiiiMNo0ZjmSPRo_6kFWVIJUul5eX9Juhna6io6SRpwinhKyYrrO2-rjKvOrAVMHz0PXZX9te3Yzfit-w4BLjauQi6_XsOPBr8NXyHfPq96b31w==

This one gives me:

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70 int
40 str
40% Life
20% Chaos
1 Power Charge
50% crit
30% crit multi
5% Increase Buff (Seems huge with 11 auras)

Second Route - Stay where I am and go hybrid life/es

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAuMFQgceB6UI9A5IDlwPxBBYEQ8RLxFQEZYTnhXnFr8W8xslHU8fxyY8JpUnqSoLKworeCycLR8tiy-dNbk6WDt8O-M9X0GWRKtE-0V8RX5JUUmyS65MLUyzUDBSU1VLVa5VxlxrXfJfKmHiY0NkCWSdakNq-m0ZcFJw1XOzdFV2EX4zfll-r3_GghCD24RIidOKKIw2jRmP-pUglS6Xl5f0oqOkkacrrJius7b3uMq86sBUwfPDbdD12VvZX9te3Yzfit-w4BLpAuv18Gvw1fId8-r31w==

This one gives me:

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8% all resistance
1% Max lightning
10 int
138% ES
20% Evasion
55% faster ES start
3 Flask Nodes
20% Spell Damage

I've never had such a tough choice before! I guess if I was to go the life version my gear would be all armor or armor/es while if I went the hybrid version I'd want pure ES/life gear too.

I did some thorough testing with 2% lightning leech and that seems to be enough. Can still outleech Palace Dom and also did a few Apex runs. 1% is not, for a low defence ES crit build, you sometimes need to leech back what damage you took. Fracturing devourers or evangelists anyone? Or porcupines with extra cold/lightning and chain in a party? In the Apex, it turned out that leaving dual striker from the trio last is a bad idea, when he puts up his reflect that is instant rip. Its better to leave cycloner for the 3rd stage.

Edit: Here is my crappy video, Precinct map, animals, double boss, boss damage and attack speed.

Edit 2: Now added Palace Dominus fight too.

Skill tree after many iterations - there are still a few points to be reallocated but I hope that will be solved over time with gear upgrades.

Currently sitting at 11,4K tooltip dps and there is still room for improvement. Taking into account that with 40% aoe each ball hits each mob 4-5 times it is easily 45-57K real DPS without assasin's mark. Without using RF, + skill level items or even properly corrupted BL gem. 4 hits are for running mobs, 5 for standing still. There might be situations when mobs take less hits, like very fast ones in stun immune maps but with freezing from ice herald that should still even out to higher number.

Gear

@valentia. can you post your gears and passive skill tree for the 10kDPS ball of lightning.

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Valentia wrote:

Well, I got to 66 last night and ended the day with about 7,000 DPS =) Very fun and very awesome.

I don't get how you recieve 7.000 DPS with this build at level 66. Explain please.