Uber Atziri as a Melee

To me simply beating the uber bosses was never my main goal. GGG testers have already beat uber atziri with pretty much every build there is. Their advice was something along the lines of.

"while resistance is great at mitigating damage movement speed is whats really important in this fight."

If I had gone in there and ran away from damage as my main source of mitigation in order to beat the bosses I wouldn't have done anything that someone else hasn't already done. One thing that really keeps me playing this game is trying to figure out how to accomplish things that at first seem impossible. Considering I found my mortal pieces all I really lost was time and if I had fun wasting my time trying to face tank the bosses it wasn't really a waste of time to me then :)

One thing I've noticed as melee vs normal atziri is that she either goes immune for short periods of time or there is a bug in that fight. I notice sometimes im swinging my reave attack at her and nothing happens but if I switch to my normal non skill attack I can hit her. This has caused me to almost die a few times while tanking normal atziri.

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GGG testers have already beat uber atziri with pretty much every build there is. Their advice was something along the lines of "while resistance is great at mitigating damage movement speed is whats really important in this fight."

Sorry, but this sounds like nonsense. I HIGHLY doubt GGG tested Uber Atziri with every build, yet alone be able to beat her with every build. I seriously doubt that.

Yeah movement is the most important skill and you can avoid the blasts, but unless you are evasion with Ondar's Guile or have permanent Immortal Call - you will still get raped by those Uber spears.

So has ANY melee build beaten Uber Atziri and has video of proof? Anyone?

It is bad design by GGG if only 1 specific build (low life spectral throw) has been able to consistently do this content mostly through flask abuse + Atziri gloves, and we are 3+ months after Uber Atziri was released?

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Wishuponastar wrote:

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GGG testers have already beat uber atziri with pretty much every build there is. Their advice was something along the lines of "while resistance is great at mitigating damage movement speed is whats really important in this fight."

Sorry, but this sounds like nonsense. I HIGHLY doubt GGG tested Uber Atziri with every build, yet alone be able to beat her with every build. I seriously doubt that.

Yeah movement is the most important skill and you can avoid the blasts, but unless you are evasion with Ondar's Guile or have permanent Immortal Call - you will still get raped by those Uber spears.

So has ANY melee build beaten Uber Atziri and has video of proof? Anyone?

It is bad design by GGG if only 1 specific build (low life spectral throw) has been able to consistently do this content mostly through flask abuse + Atziri gloves, and we are 3+ months after Uber Atziri was released?

I facetank Uber atm - I'll try sticking a melee gem of some kind in my 6l next time I kill her and record it.

What melee skill you guys think is the best for it?

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

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Wishuponastar wrote:

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GGG testers have already beat uber atziri with pretty much every build there is. Their advice was something along the lines of "while resistance is great at mitigating damage movement speed is whats really important in this fight."

Sorry, but this sounds like nonsense. I HIGHLY doubt GGG tested Uber Atziri with every build, yet alone be able to beat her with every build. I seriously doubt that.

Yeah movement is the most important skill and you can avoid the blasts, but unless you are evasion with Ondar's Guile or have permanent Immortal Call - you will still get raped by those Uber spears.

So has ANY melee build beaten Uber Atziri and has video of proof? Anyone?

It is bad design by GGG if only 1 specific build (low life spectral throw) has been able to consistently do this content mostly through flask abuse + Atziri gloves, and we are 3+ months after Uber Atziri was released?

I facetank Uber atm - I'll try sticking a melee gem of some kind in my 6l next time I kill her and record it.

What melee skill you guys think is the best for it?

If you don't wanna rechrome,
Double - FA - Multi - WED - PCoC - Crit probably since Cyclone and Reave needs Conc Effect too. Could replace Crit with ConC as well I guess, dunno how good that is.

EDIT: Fuck, you have 3 greens... uhhhh... put in Added Cold instead of WED I Guess? :DDDD

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Chundadragon wrote:

If you don't wanna rechrome,
Double - FA - Multi - WED - PCoC - Crit probably since Cyclone and Reave needs Conc Effect too. Could replace Crit with ConC as well I guess, dunno how good that is.

EDIT: Fuck, you have 3 greens... uhhhh... put in Added Cold instead of WED I Guess? :DDDD

rofl that is going to be awful with Added Cold but alright I'll try it next time. I'll probably spec Grace/Ondar's as well otherwise the the spear spin at melee range could hurt a whole lot.

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

rofl that is going to be awful with Added Cold but alright I'll try it next time. I'll probably spec Grace/Ondar's as well otherwise the the spear spin at melee range could hurt a whole lot.

and after you do Jake, we'll move on to the next - more important - question:

can Atziri/Uber-Atziri be beaten with a melee character, equipped with gear obtainable by mere mortals, or even - god forbid - self found?
and with a character built to be melee, instead of an existing char molded into one, by buying a fuckton of Regret Orbs.
and no damn cheating (snapshots, map hacks etc')!

answer, is no.

GGG did a "wonderful" job balancing her, I'll tell you that.
but I'm not surprised, at this point - because they did a "wonderful" job balancing everything else too.

They added a way to farm currency with low tier gear (midnights) with seeing a lot of different boss fights

And in addition they gave every top tier player a challenge

Good balance from my point of view

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johnKeys wrote:

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

rofl that is going to be awful with Added Cold but alright I'll try it next time. I'll probably spec Grace/Ondar's as well otherwise the the spear spin at melee range could hurt a whole lot.

and after you do Jake, we'll move on to the next - more important - question:

can Atziri/Uber-Atziri be beaten with a melee character, equipped with gear obtainable by mere mortals, or even - god forbid - self found?
and with a character built to be melee, instead of an existing char molded into one, by buying a fuckton of Regret Orbs.
and no damn cheating (snapshots, map hacks etc')!

answer, is no.

GGG did a "wonderful" job balancing her, I'll tell you that.
but I'm not surprised, at this point - because they did a "wonderful" job balancing everything else too.

You are 100% right - there is no way self found melee ever kills Uber Atziri. If somebody ever does it, well, fk big respect to them.

Lets hope, that pile of shit, people call Atziri, became like that because of snapshotting, which need to be taken into account, to prevent most shamless abuse, what we see in every achivement made by players in this game.

Yet still they failed...

But i think to make something "challenging" in current state of the game, you need to make boss 1 shots you no matter what and be immune to everything, untill you throw at it a stack of exalted or eternal orbs. (simmilar like with strongboxes) Exalted stack makes boss do no damage and be volnurable for 5 sec, Eternal stack - for 10 sec.

And unique, which will drop should, for example, give you acess to any keystone without connection rquirements. OP, you may say... but it will be rare! so no problem.

what a wonderful idea, maxkardinal :)

fighting bosses with money is definitely what this game needs.
all steps leading up to that, were already taken.

and it's great for the "economy" too! so many currency sinks!
RMT-encouraging? nah...