Uber Atziri as a Melee

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

Just got really lucky and had Mortal Hope drop finally

Thinking about giving this a shot!

Update!
Welp ive concluded that there is 0% chance of anyone factanking these bosses. I did fine against the first vaal boss but when the second one enrages theres no way you can tank his hammer fist. Any melee build that is going to do this will have to have a lot of mobility to leap/run/whirl in and out of the fights and avoid damage as much as possible.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

not to be that guy, but did you expect to facetank them without block evasion dodge or armor just because you have 15k es? i dont think you set a good example, even tho some cheap build of mine would be smashed too lol. you have a high buffer which is great vs hordes of non boss mobs, but you dont have 'ehp' for bosses

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

not to be that guy, but did you expect to facetank them without block evasion dodge or armor just because you have 15k es? i dont think you set a good example, even tho some cheap build of mine would be smashed too lol. you have a high buffer which is great vs hordes of non boss mobs, but you dont have 'ehp' for bosses

I dont just have 16k es I also have
1.7k es regen per second while attacking 1k regen while running (because of endurance charges and Gifts from above)
89k pure physical DPS
23% instant life leech about 20k es leeched back per second
5 endurance charges and 10 sec immortal call up time thanks to inc duration + lvl 3 Enhance (i usually have 5 endurance charges back up before immortal call ends thanks too enduring cry and warlords mark)
Plus a 30% chance to block attacks
7% chance to block spells (LOL)

Block evasion dodge and armor all suffer the same down fall. They do nothing to help you when a hit finally gets through and hits for 6k+ damage. You invest too many points getting 75 block chance or 30k armour (I cant dodge as ci)and as a result your hp is too low to survive a big hit. Ive run pretty much every 1h melee tank build there is and tried them all out on the hardest bosses for example

My witch with 75/65 block chance has
12k es
30k pure phys dps
600 es regen per second
19% instant life leech

That character gets wrecked by normal atziri if I try to face tank her. It does fine at first when your blocking everything but once in a while you wont block and you either get 1 shot or loose 50% of your hp. Then your DPS ends up being too low to regen back to full health before another big shot gets through and kills you. The spec I ran uber with can facetank atziri and any other boss in the game (besides the ubers) no problem where as every other spec ive tried runs into issues getting 1 shot every once and a while.

Id consider Gellig to have the best aegis tank build http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/781590 But even he got wrecked by uber atziri.

With the current gear thats in the game I think the only way for melee to do this fight is to run leap and whirl out of harms way I cant see anyone face tanking all 3 sets of bosses reliably though id love to be proved wrong ;)

Edit: I guess it could be possible if I had used vaal discipline but I dont think you could collect enough souls during the boss fights to keep recharging it also I dont have any open slots for any more gems :( we need socketed flasks now!

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VictorDoom wrote:

The 3 bosses i do at normal atziri by just being on immortall call all of the time so im assuming these wouldnt pose much of a problem since all the damage is phsyical (apart form dual strikers fire and the chaos trail from the cyclone)

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

Just got really lucky and had Mortal Hope drop finally

Thinking about giving this a shot!

Update!
Welp ive concluded that there is 0% chance of anyone factanking these bosses. I did fine against the first vaal boss but when the second one enrages theres no way you can tank his hammer fist. Any melee build that is going to do this will have to have a lot of mobility to leap/run/whirl in and out of the fights and avoid damage as much as possible.

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

I ripped to vaal multiple times in my one try at ubers but I went in wanting to try and facetank with my build had I moved out of the way of vaals smash I would have been fine or im pretty sure vaal discipline would have let me facetank him. I wish I had a chance to try out immortal call on the trio but that will have to wait for next time.

@Mortezzah
When your at full Es and full health and a big shot hits you does it take all of your es and then the remainder of damage transfer to your life or will one big shot only deplete your es and not hit your life ?

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

I ripped to vaal multiple times in my one try at ubers but I went in wanting to try and facetank with my build had I moved out of the way of vaals smash I would have been fine or im pretty sure vaal discipline would have let me facetank him. I wish I had a chance to try out immortal call on the trio but that will have to wait for next time.

@Mortezzah
When your at full Es and full health and a big shot hits you does it take all of your es and then the remainder of damage transfer to your life or will one big shot only deplete your es and not hit your life ?

will roll over to your hp too of course, and if aegis blocks then he will replenish es but still have to regen hp

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

Update!
Welp ive concluded that there is 0% chance of anyone factanking these bosses. I did fine against the first vaal boss but when the second one enrages theres no way you can tank his hammer fist. Any melee build that is going to do this will have to have a lot of mobility to leap/run/whirl in and out of the fights and avoid damage as much as possible.

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Chundadragon wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

I ripped to vaal multiple times in my one try at ubers but I went in wanting to try and facetank with my build had I moved out of the way of vaals smash I would have been fine or im pretty sure vaal discipline would have let me facetank him. I wish I had a chance to try out immortal call on the trio but that will have to wait for next time.

@Mortezzah
When your at full Es and full health and a big shot hits you does it take all of your es and then the remainder of damage transfer to your life or will one big shot only deplete your es and not hit your life ?

will roll over to your hp too of course, and if aegis blocks then he will replenish es but still have to regen hp

Aegis will do nothing against huge hits and when you're in second boss room, you get hit for 5k over and over again. (From doing 36 uber kills) Immortal Call of some sort is kinda mandatory (CwDT or whatever) unless you have mirrored dagger and Acuities then you just facetank for the lols.