[1.2] Sidra's Guide: Acrobatics Based Physical Crit Split Arrow Ranger (Atziri Kill Video Inside)

Interesting build you have there. I also play crit bow, but i am curios as to why you went split arrow as well as have so much health.

I recently swapped from split arrow to tornado build with the standard GMP but decided to link CoCS with Ice Spear and Artic Breath. The amount of cc is amazing, you perma freeze everything while running hatred and Herald of ice+ashe. Yes I know I could probably get more DPS using Fireball or arc, but I dont have as much Life ( 3.5k life + 400 ES) as you. Ive been running lvl 78 courtyard map solo since lvl 80 and I dont have Acuity. Instead I use maligaros and for helm a Rats nest. Unfortunately I cant run reflect maps. The puncture crit on phys reflect are too OP then the AoE spell dmg from Ice Spear + Artic Breath are extremely painful in elemental dmg. Otherwise no Issue.

I like the idea of Atziri steps and I have also though of use them instead of rare boots, but unfortunately I have Zero resistances on My Helm and Gloves. But i do get a lot of dmg mitigate from using 2 CWDT. CwDT + IC + EC + curse (3 link so that I can manually use my curse) and CwDT + EC + Molten shell + vaal haste

But I wanted to ask you a few questions;
1) why no drop some life and go more dps nodes since u have acuity
2) how much more effect are the atziri steps vs rare 3 resistance boots since u are take acrobatic

1) Why would I want more DPS and less HP? I don't like dying, and my 17k Chain DPS wrecks solo content as is.

Once a build gets to a certain level - do you know what kills it in this game? Random one shots from buffed things. Ice Nova from a box. Vaal Spark with extra projectiles. Some random crit from a big Vaal guy with some damage mods. More HP prevents that. Right now, I don't even have to worry about taking a normal Flame Blast from Atziri - it doesn't kill me.

Look at Etup - he stopped running any damage mods on maps to get to 100. There is a reason for that - he wasn't comfortable with the risk extra damage in maps posed him and didn't think he'd get through hundreds of maps without a fluke death made more likely by extra damage on it.

I don't reroll damage mods on maps - instead I hope that my high HP can help me avoid fluke deaths. I want more HP, not less. Still kinda salty the 1.2 update cost me 400 HP.

2) Why would I give up 50% more spell dodge for resistances I don't need since I am already capped? So I could use Rat's Nest instead and...oh wait...lose HP...

Well just saying since this guy here *mathils, was able to do UBER ATZIRI, WITH ONLY 4K hp and NO ACUITY. I will link you his forum page and he has a video. Also he did it with a 5l



So if you want to be naming people and being condescending you might want to look at your build and SKILL or rather lack of skills. When players such as Mathil are WRECKING Ubers. I was just asking a simple question.

Resistances: Yes I am also capped at resistances, but I need to use rare boots bc I am using rats nest. I imagine if you were to use Rats nest and Steps you would not be able to cap resistances, therefore I was asking which was a better option. Either spell block or more dps. Also since you are taking acrobatics and phase acrobatics would that additional spell dodge be necessary. Fights from Atziri and Vaals are repetitive. You already know what he/she will cast next therefore its about positioning. Also many consider high dps to be a form of survival.

Why would u want to facetank flameblast, im confused

Dude - I think you seriously misread something I wrote. I was not at all condescending to Mathil. Quite the opposite - he was mentioned in that context because his build is strong. And you asked me why I did not want less hp or to swap Atziri's Step - I simply answered...and my build's damage is very high, so it's not as if I need more to solve for some weakness.

There are tons of physical crit builds on the forums now. The high HP and HP sustain are what sets my build apart - as opposed to others that either don't care about defenses or run dodge the hello out of everything like Mathil and Precaso. I, on the otherhand, while firing Split Arrow of Frenzy,can stand still in most situations while firing and am safe. My character is meatier - they are lightning fast. I find it much less stressful gameplay, and it's not possible without LGOH. Both styles done right are very effective at end game. But I think one may encounter some problems if they try a less meaty version of my build, or a less speedy version of theirs. Mine minus LGOH would qualify as less meaty.

Exact quote from me - there is nothing condescending or derogatory in that.

And for Atziri - on the split phase I stand in the corner and intentionally take the hits and leech through the damage while potting. It ends that phase considerably quicker than running around. But at no point did I ever say my method was better, simply that they were different builds.

i think it dépends on playstyle of each of us. Evryone run pretty the same build as asidra and i always follow each new patch his build as a guideline, i watched carefully you movie and read a lot of your post and i sense much of you as a player and what you like.

Everyone needs hp actually, so it's not the problem, we start to argue when we try to balance dmg/crit/attack speed around skills and gameplay style.

i remember asidra when you said you were pretty jealous of that guy at 1.1.2 patch who run a puncture build with 60% movement speed because it was not what you looked after for. You are more of a heavy shot playstyle : one Arrow shot = one shot kill So you focus Physical dmg, accuracy and crit. And you have others player who are more shotgunner who want to shot fast and run fast even if dmg are low, their gameplay lies on mobility and attack speed.

move> shot> move shot>move shot to clear a pack

while i saw you staying more on a static place relying on a good powerful bow and attack stat to clear the zone before everything reach you.

it's just as how i see you now i can be wrong eventually but i feel that difference as a state of mind when we play ranger.

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Asidra wrote:

Dude - I think you seriously misread something I wrote. I was not at all condescending to Mathil. Quite the opposite - he was mentioned in that context because his build is strong. And you asked me why I did not want less hp or to swap Atziri's Step - I simply answered...and my build's damage is very high, so it's not as if I need more to solve for some weakness.

There are tons of physical crit builds on the forums now. The high HP and HP sustain are what sets my build apart - as opposed to others that either don't care about defenses or run dodge the hello out of everything like Mathil and Precaso. I, on the otherhand, while firing Split Arrow of Frenzy,can stand still in most situations while firing and am safe. My character is meatier - they are lightning fast. I find it much less stressful gameplay, and it's not possible without LGOH. Both styles done right are very effective at end game. But I think one may encounter some problems if they try a less meaty version of my build, or a less speedy version of theirs. Mine minus LGOH would qualify as less meaty.

Exact quote from me - there is nothing condescending or derogatory in that.

And for Atziri - on the split phase I stand in the corner and intentionally take the hits and leech through the damage while potting. It ends that phase considerably quicker than running around. But at no point did I ever say my method was better, simply that they were different builds.

Both you and Mathil have earned my respect (although I'm sure that doesn't mean much). You guys seem like pretty cool people that are just trying to share with the community your good experience with things that you have tried out. You guys probably don't get much appreciation back from the people you're trying to help out, but we really appreciate your experimenting for our sake. I've mostly been following Mathil's tornado build this season, but because of your input, I've also been leveling split arrow (which at the moment I've just been using as a curse on hit attack), but I've switched it up every now and then and really liked it. One day tornado's single target dps might be looked at and nerfed because it's just too good (the only times I ever bust out with puncture is for exiles and map bosses). When that day comes, I'll be happy to know that I can just switch to split arrow and keep on trucking. I've also greatly enjoyed reading about your poison arrow be necromancer build. Which at the moment due to work and incoming baby, I haven't had the chance to fully try out, I've really enjoyed reading about it and the theory crafting that goes behind it. I know you like fire trap, but what do you think of using explosive arrow for your totem killing attack? Is the trap superior because you can place it right on top of the totems?

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Asidra wrote:

Dude - I think you seriously misread something I wrote. I was not at all condescending to Mathil. Quite the opposite - he was mentioned in that context because his build is strong. And you asked me why I did not want less hp or to swap Atziri's Step - I simply answered...and my build's damage is very high, so it's not as if I need more to solve for some weakness.

There are tons of physical crit builds on the forums now. The high HP and HP sustain are what sets my build apart - as opposed to others that either don't care about defenses or run dodge the hello out of everything like Mathil and Precaso. I, on the otherhand, while firing Split Arrow of Frenzy,can stand still in most situations while firing and am safe. My character is meatier - they are lightning fast. I find it much less stressful gameplay, and it's not possible without LGOH. Both styles done right are very effective at end game. But I think one may encounter some problems if they try a less meaty version of my build, or a less speedy version of theirs. Mine minus LGOH would qualify as less meaty.

Exact quote from me - there is nothing condescending or derogatory in that.

And for Atziri - on the split phase I stand in the corner and intentionally take the hits and leech through the damage while potting. It ends that phase considerably quicker than running around. But at no point did I ever say my method was better, simply that they were different builds.

Both you and Mathil have earned my respect (although I'm sure that doesn't mean much). You guys seem like pretty cool people that are just trying to share with the community your good experience with things that you have tried out. You guys probably don't get much appreciation back from the people you're trying to help out, but we really appreciate your experimenting for our sake. I've mostly been following Mathil's tornado build this season, but because of your input, I've also been leveling split arrow (which at the moment I've just been using as a curse on hit attack), but I've switched it up every now and then and really liked it. One day tornado's single target dps might be looked at and nerfed because it's just too good (the only times I ever bust out with puncture is for exiles and map bosses). When that day comes, I'll be happy to know that I can just switch to split arrow and keep on trucking. I've also greatly enjoyed reading about your poison arrow be necromancer build. Which at the moment due to work and incoming baby, I haven't had the chance to fully try out, I've really enjoyed reading about it and the theory crafting that goes behind it. I know you like fire trap, but what do you think of using explosive arrow for your totem killing attack? Is the trap superior because you can place it right on top of the totems?

Hi guys, i recently started playing PoE and decided to play a ranger and come upon this build.

how would you improve the following build as a softcore variant of Sidra's build? Reason as to why i skipped the Frenzy charge nodes is because i currently using puncture/Split Arrow instead of Frenzy/Split

i would to be tanky, self-sustainable and able to dish out decent dps.
Thank you for your input!

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xxdede wrote:

Hi guys, i recently started playing PoE and decided to play a ranger and come upon this build.

how would you improve the following build

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as a softcore variant of Sidra's build? Reason as to why i skipped the Frenzy charge nodes is because i currently using puncture/Split Arrow instead of Frenzy/Split

i would to be tanky, self-sustainable and able to dish out decent dps.
Thank you for your input!

I really wouldn't do much, that's a solid looking 90ish point tree. The only thing I'd probably do is take the 20% crit chance from Lethality circle off and grab 6% hp or something - that 20% node is a pretty low value one and shouldn't be grabbed until very late when all the big stuff is taken.

Hi Asidra, I've been using your build for a short time after respec of my old barrage ranger combing back from rampage and I would ask you a couple of suggestion about my equip and what wich changes would give me a major boost.

And also I'd like to know what do you think about using the revamped Infractem for this build (probably chaning chain with GMP 'cause of 100% pierce), considering that I don't have a drillneck atm.




I would really appreciate your feedback
Thank you
Albion

I am not a fan of Infractem because I prefer Chain to Pierce, and an arrow cannot Chain and Pierce. Pierce checks first, so if you tried to run Infractem while also using Chain, you'd never chain. And you'd also need to find another sustain method than mana leech. Overall just not worth it.

I really would look up upgrade your bow at this point. Master crafting made getting a decent crit bow very cheap and easy, you can get to the 250-290 dps range pretty easily while also getting crit over 8%. Just pick a Harbinger bow up off the ground and go at it with a little currency.

I also think I'd swap that Quiver with a DPS life/resist one. It works in some niche builds, but for a normal crit build I don't think what it gives you is worth it. The thing with Herald of Ice - it's explosion damage is considered spell damage - so attack builds don't scale it very well, and you end up doing all that work to freeze for weak little ice explosions. You will get much better performance from the fire herald, and would probably Grace/HoF until mana gets high enough for Grace and Hatred.