[TEMPEST] RaizQT's Poison trapper [lvl97+ top 20] BUILD OF THE WEEK + ATZIRI KILL!

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Pirial wrote:

Hi go this build in Rampage and find one BIG problem, Chaos damage don't kill totems.How you kill Them?

fire traps - fire pen - chance to ignite - conc effect +
bear traps - culling strike - added fire - item rarity

is more than enough for normal totems, haku and underground sea. its not pretty, but it easily does the job when youre solo and when youre in a party your party members can hopefully help out anyways. now olmecs sanctum...that takes a bit longer, but its still possible

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johnteshhing wrote:

why take projectile damage nodes? does that affect the cloud damage?

Its give you more dps cloud. In my 16lvl gem they give me +300 dps

so projectile damage nodes increases cloud damage (please confirm)? what about increase physical damage with bow nodes? this would increase the hit damage of poison arrow but would it also increase the cloud damage?

what about projectile damage gems such as slower projectile and physical projectile attack damage?

finally, how do you check your cloud dps btw? the tooltip dps is entirely irrelevant when it comes to the cloud damage, right?

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johnteshhing wrote:

so projectile damage nodes increases cloud damage (please confirm)? what about increase physical damage with bow nodes? this would increase the hit damage of poison arrow but would it also increase the cloud damage?

what about projectile damage gems such as slower projectile and physical projectile attack damage?

finally, how do you check your cloud dps btw? the tooltip dps is entirely irrelevant when it comes to the cloud damage, right?

Every "projectile damage" increases the cloud damage but physical damage only increases the arrow damage. It doesn't matter if the phys./proj. damage is from gear, talentpoints or gems, it's always the same.

The tooltip isn't 100% accurate because aoe damage(conc. effect) and some other things are missing.

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Scarletsword wrote:

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johnteshhing wrote:

so projectile damage nodes increases cloud damage (please confirm)? what about increase physical damage with bow nodes? this would increase the hit damage of poison arrow but would it also increase the cloud damage?

what about projectile damage gems such as slower projectile and physical projectile attack damage?

finally, how do you check your cloud dps btw? the tooltip dps is entirely irrelevant when it comes to the cloud damage, right?

Every "projectile damage" increases the cloud damage but physical damage only increases the arrow damage. It doesn't matter if the phys./proj. damage is from gear, talentpoints or gems, it's always the same.

The tooltip isn't 100% accurate because aoe damage(conc. effect) and some other things are missing.

would projectile weakness curse increase the cloud damage taken? What about linking it to both trap and mine? anyone has experience linking to both (instead of just trap or just mine)? I see some passive nodes increase both mine and trap damage in one node so I wonder if it'll be a good idea to link it to both since you get damage bonuses on both for 1 passive node. (9% trap and 9% mine = 18% damage increase?)

Fairly new player here, so I have quite a few questions but I'd really appreciate the help.

Firstly, related to the actual weapon:
Is poison arrow cloud damage effected by the bow's physical attack damage?
Is it possible/worth it to self-craft without exalts for a bow? Which crafting path would you take?

Second, relating to gems:
Is something like Slower Projectiles + Faster Projectiles worth it? Or at least 1 on them? They give 27% and 19% increased projectile damage respectively at lvl 20.
Does desecrate actually stack under poison arrow cloud? I tried testing but couldn't see difference at lvl 67.
Is desecrate worth keeping as extra damage if I wasn't going to use DD? I was thinking about replacing DD with firetrap.
Does reduced mana work on arctic armour? Again, I can't see the difference myself but I saw someone having it linked in their gear.

Third, skill tree:
Is the alchemist cluster worth getting?


This is my current goal for the build at lvl 80 - http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAx4EBwceCPQOSA5cD6sRlhUgFr8Y2x9BIuImlSmlKk0s6TWSNj09Xz8nQYdFfkfiSRNJUUrITLNOKk6bUUxSU1KvUzVVxlcrW69fKmHiZ_xqQ2r6axdsjG0ZbWxuqnTxdoJ9W3_Ggh6D24UyieCP-pMflSCVLpeVl_SbtZ2qoqOkOac0rEetSrTRtfK3PrtNvOq9gsBUwJzB88M6yAzKSsu90IHQ0Ni92eDbC90N3V_fiuOE5ljmgekC6-Tw1fno_gr-sw==

Any suggestions would are welcome. I still seem squishy as hell even running 15 AA and maxed resists.

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johnteshhing wrote:

would projectile weakness curse increase the cloud damage taken? What about linking it to both trap and mine? anyone has experience linking to both (instead of just trap or just mine)? I see some passive nodes increase both mine and trap damage in one node so I wonder if it'll be a good idea to link it to both since you get damage bonuses on both for 1 passive node. (9% trap and 9% mine = 18% damage increase?)

Vulnerability is a multiplier and increases the damage way more than projectile weakness but proj. weakness should work, too. It's just not as good.

Before the patch 1.2 hit, it was possible to doubledps with the multiplier on mine and trap but that doesn't work anymore apparently. Only the increased damage nodes in the passive tree would work and still stack. The problem with this whole thing is that it's really clunky and it takes way to much time on every mobpack just to set it up.

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Streltsy wrote:

Fairly new player here, so I have quite a few questions but I'd really appreciate the help.

Firstly, related to the actual weapon:
Is poison arrow cloud damage effected by the bow's physical attack damage?
Is it possible/worth it to self-craft without exalts for a bow? Which crafting path would you take?

Physical attack damage only scales the arrow damage and not the cloud damage.
I wouldn't even try to craft a bow besides 5linking or 6linking it. The prices in Beyond and Rampage are around 1ex-1.5ex for a +3 bow which is pretty cheap for you endgame weapon. But you could add 1-2resists with your masters.

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Streltsy wrote:

Second, relating to gems:
Is something like Slower Projectiles + Faster Projectiles worth it? Or at least 1 on them? They give 27% and 19% increased projectile damage respectively at lvl 20.
Does desecrate actually stack under poison arrow cloud? I tried testing but couldn't see difference at lvl 67.
Is desecrate worth keeping as extra damage if I wasn't going to use DD? I was thinking about replacing DD with firetrap.
Does reduced mana work on arctic armour? Again, I can't see the difference myself but I saw someone having it linked in their gear.

Slower projectiles is the 6l, if you're not using drillneck. If you're using drillneck, it's pierce.
The full link would be poison arrow - trap - incr. aoe - conc. effect - empower - slower proj./ pierce.

Yes, desecrate stacks with PA but it's damage is low compared to PA.

No, reduced mana doesn't apply to arctic armour.

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Streltsy wrote:

Third, skill tree:
Is the alchemist cluster worth getting?


This is my current goal for the build at lvl 80 - http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAx4EBwceCPQOSA5cD6sRlhUgFr8Y2x9BIuImlSmlKk0s6TWSNj09Xz8nQYdFfkfiSRNJUUrITLNOKk6bUUxSU1KvUzVVxlcrW69fKmHiZ_xqQ2r6axdsjG0ZbWxuqnTxdoJ9W3_Ggh6D24UyieCP-pMflSCVLpeVl_SbtZ2qoqOkOac0rEetSrTRtfK3PrtNvOq9gsBUwJzB88M6yAzKSsu90IHQ0Ni92eDbC90N3V_fiuOE5ljmgekC6-Tw1fno_gr-sw==

Any suggestions would are welcome. I still seem squishy as hell even running 15 AA and maxed resists.

The alchemist cluster is pretty strong but not this early. It's more for maxing resist or granite flasks, if you're already using the "profane chemistry"-nodes. The manaleech from "Mind drinker" only works on the arrow, which doesn't deal a lot of damage.
Other than that, your build is completly fine.

If you think you're squishy as hell, try posting your gear. It will show what items and links you're using and can show, if you're missing something or if something is easily upgradable.

how does this build go against very mobile enemies other than slowly and painfully throwing traps everywhere while the cloud drains their health for 0.2 seconds at a time?

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johnteshhing wrote:

how does this build go against very mobile enemies other than slowly and painfully throwing traps everywhere while the cloud drains their health for 0.2 seconds at a time?

fine, decoy totem/vaal summon skeletons your friends.

It doesn't look like Raiz has been in here in a while - so posting a link to my Poison Arrow build. I don't use traps but a lot of the mechanics are still the same. It looks like a lot of the questions here are basic of nature with respect to Poison Arrow mechanics - there is some good info there for anyone wanting it. You can still play his build but use it for some Poison arrow basics.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913