Zeno's Bino's Kitchen Knife Crit ST/Reave build. 1.1.4.

i got this amulet for this build yesterday how much do you think its worth?
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Tubbehh wrote:
i got this amulet for this build yesterday how much do you think its worth?


Not sure what its worth. You didn't mention league.

It's super nice, if it's on Ambush i'd very likely buy it if you're willing to sell.
Last edited by Zeno666#1179 on May 23, 2014, 12:26:58 AM
Hi I'm Loving this build so far I can't wait till 65!!! Im level 47 Currently as of writing this Heres my gear for the future please tell me if I should replace it for better.

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Reloads wrote:
Hi I'm Loving this build so far I can't wait till 65!!! Im level 47 Currently as of writing this Heres my gear for the future please tell me if I should replace it for better.




Gear seems great. I'd try and get a rustic sash base though, since the increased physical damage gives a TON of DPS after you get all your gear.
Just chiming in here with my build. This was an old build ViperStrike I respecced into this build. I don't have the Oak Cruel quest reward, but from what I see, the 18% phys dmg isn't necessary. Instead of the Throatseeker notable, I go for the Flaying notable. This gives me less crit mult, but more phys dmg and life. (48% phys dmg w/ daggers, 10% life, 20% crit mult, and +30 dex)

Current skilltree @ lvl 88 with Oak Norm quest reward

Planned skilltree @ lvl 100 with Oak Norm quest reward

Gear:
Spoiler


Key facts:
- 32.8k dps with Dstrike (I had a spare 20q doublestrike lying around)
- 10.2k dps with ST
- 68.5% chance to crit
- 670% crit mult
- 86% chance to hit
- 4.9k life
- 10.7k armor, 50% phys dmg reduction
- 75% all rez
- 102 spare mana after auras

I have a Haste aura socketed in case of ele-ref maps.

I don't think a Ming's Heart is necessary in the build, as you would be better off with a ring with more defenses and +acc if possible. I was lucky with my ammy/ring that have a lot of acc. Without the two, my accuracy drops from 86% to 79%, which is huge. (That's like a 7% more dmg loss)

My compliments to the build - solid, and extremely fun to play with the proper gear.
For Ranger build tips, tactics, and critiques, visit this thread:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69224
Last edited by Islidox#7754 on May 24, 2014, 12:24:11 AM
What 1Hand weapon do you recommend levelin with>?
First off, i just want to let you know i'm not insulting you. Just making comparisons. Please don't take it the wrong way.


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Islidox wrote:


Key facts:
- 32.8k dps with Dstrike 45k Self buffed reave, just shy of 50k Doublestrike (Need to slightly update screenshots and gear)
- 10.2k dps with ST Upwards of 12k ST
- 68.5% chance to crit I'm at over 75% chance to crit
- 670% crit mult you noted your build got less crit multi, so i won't compare it.
- 86% chance to hit Mine is 82% at level 90. Which factors in to be around 86% vs level 79 mobs.
- 4.9k life I'm around 4.6k without mings, so good job.
- 10.7k armor, 50% phys dmg reduction My armor was lower, so this is a big plus. I'm currently trying evasion based.
- 75% all rez
- 102 spare mana after aurasMine is very similar. Around 119

I have a Haste aura socketed in case of ele-ref maps. Good call. But in general ele reflect doesn't bug me.

I don't think a Ming's Heart is necessary in the build, as you would be better off with a ring with more defenses and +acc if possible. I was lucky with my ammy/ring that have a lot of acc. Without the two, my accuracy drops from 86% to 79%, which is huge. (That's like a 7% more dmg loss) While i somewhat agree, the ability to run Blood rage (easily) is great if you get extra frenzy charges and/or you need the leech. Ming's also adds a lot of DPS, but the cost is pretty big. It's not good for every build.

My compliments to the build - solid, and extremely fun to play with the proper gear. Thank yo





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Reloads wrote:
What 1Hand weapon do you recommend levelin with>?



Ungils>Mightflay>Rare Dagger/Bino's.

Mightflay is awesome, it starts to fall off around level 55-60 imo. If you can buy a semi decent dagger to help from like 50-65 it helps, but mightflay can carry you to 65.
Last edited by Zeno666#1179 on May 24, 2014, 3:26:52 AM
@Zeno666:

1. I replaced Doublestrike with a Reave+MPD+MStrike+CAoE, and resulted in a 31.3k DPS figure. I'm sticking with Doublestrike because it allows me to single-target a phys ref mob when I replace Inc Crit Mult with Added Chaos Dmg. Also, the reason for the large discrepancy between my and your DPS figures is due to Ming's Heart and other gear. Also makes mana management easier in half-regen maps with 22 mana cost. (I usually disable the Hatred aura in addition.)

2. Difference in ST DPS is due to Ming's Heart and other gear.

3. I need to Divine my Bino's for it to have at least 10% crit on weapon. Also I don't have crit on ammy or additional crit on tree atm. If I can break 70% without having to grab a crit node, I'll be happy with that.

4. 677% crit mult on ST and 673% crit mult on Dstrike. More or less the same amount of crit mult compared to your build. I use a legacy Maligaros, which gives me an extra 20% crit mult. Overall I have less crit mult in tree but the Maligaros and 20q Inc crit mult gems boost it to the same #.

5. Against lvl 79 mobs, I would probably have around 90% chance to hit.

I party a lot with my guildmates, so I do not necessarily get the last hit in. As such, I found that ele-reflect maps were doing a lot more dmg than I realized and decided to slot in Haste. Otherwise for solo-play, I assume I can handle ele-ref with Hatred on.

I've tried evasion-based characters... and phys-spells were giving me more trouble than it was worth.

If you ever get your build into the later levels, I think you should consider taking the Flaying notable. You get 48% inc phys dmg with daggers, 20% crit mult, 10% inc life, and +30 dex. All good stuff for this type of build.

I've looked at Mings, and while it does have its advantages, I can't say I recommend it over a good well-rolled rare ring, and I think the Gifts from Above diamond ring or Le Huep of All iron ring would make better choices. The 15% reduced life is just a harsh penalty.
For Ranger build tips, tactics, and critiques, visit this thread:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69224
Last edited by Islidox#7754 on May 24, 2014, 7:25:11 PM
Fianly hit 66! SOOOOOO good love this build man heres my gear I will soon have in my 20/20 gems!

I took your advice and got the belt you refered me to!



Last edited by Reloads#3768 on May 25, 2014, 8:15:24 PM
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Reloads wrote:
Fianly hit 66! SOOOOOO good love this build man heres my gear I will soon have in my 20/20 gems!

I took your advice and got the belt you refered me to!






Lookin good. Next step is just to slowly upgrade your gear until the stats are perfect. Ideally you'd want to have 2 Diamond rings (or 1 + mings, ect) and a really good crit ammy.


Imo it's not worth sacrificing defenses for more offense on gear so focus on getting good life and resists on rings/ammys before you worry about them being the perfect base.

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