[0.11.0] Aimlessgun's Cold Caster Guide [Now with RF/PA section] Videos! [

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shadowpalm wrote:
I'm doing a cold caster as well. I am only lvl 23 atm, but I was playing with the Skill Tree and I built a possible future build for myself at high levels, I don't mean to steal this thread, but I don't believe this is worth of starting a new thread just to ask for opinions, ideas, ect, ect.


Iron Grip only works on attacks, not spells :)
Also I'm not a fan of Breath of Rime, usually you will be continually chilling things with your spells anyways.

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Decaye01 wrote:
Hey Aimless, if you could do a quick gear check it would be much appreciated. I have 2k HP and 2k ES w/ Discipline. Max fire and cold resists. I switch out a ring to max out lightning resist. Freeze pulse hovers between 42-4500 depending on what I'm wearing.


Biggest thing would be trying to get HP on your rings and boots. I don't know how badly you need that mana regen but you should be able to drop at least one of those rings for a something that caps your lightning resist and has 60+ hp. HP on the amulet would be nice too, but you need those resists too much probably.

Also try to get a quality Freezing Pulse. It will be expensive, but it's an upgrade you will never replace and never loses value.

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ert2mars wrote:
Long post ahead:


I think the boots are the most expendable. You can keep them around if you know the map will have a hard boss, but otherwise it's not worth it IMO. The damage you gain from casting a 2nd curse is often not as much as the damage you'd do by replacing that cast with another Freezing Pulse.

For your next points, if you're mostly soloing get the HP, if you're grouping I'd get the crit. You should do 66-69 maps until at least lvl 80 probably, you will need to build up high lvl maps for 80+.

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synopsoid wrote:
HI Aimlessgun,

Here is my gear:


That X-Y elemental dmg on your ring does not apply to spells, so even a blue ring with +HP would be better :) I would also get HP on your other ring, and try to get a belt with more HP. You can probably craft some blue upgrades with alteration orbs, or transmute every leather belt you see and try to get +70 HP and a resist.

If you find a good shield I think it would be much better than dual wand. A good shield will have some spell dmg on it so you won't lose too much DPS.
My lvl 73 coldcaster shadow currently on a break. Been toying with the idea of making it more tanky in sort of kripp-style by replacing my mana leech and faster casting gems on freezing pulse with blood magic and life leech. Would have only access to one 1% templar start hp regen node but i can always spam on single targets and such ice spear without blood magic gem attached.

Before that id have to find really good Armor/ES (or pure armor maybe even) 5link chest though so not in rush with that change.

Idea would be able to be bit more tanky in close range and ability to get life when losing it in such situation. Currently it feels damage is great, but if you go toe-to-toe against packs of monsters your ES and HP start often dropping a lot and you either have to crit em all frozen or run away since there is no way to gain HP back in such situation. So that's where life leech and bit of phys dmg reduction in form of armor would come in.

Nothing wrong with this build, id just prefer to get more ability to take hits without having to run away form such situation intantly when hp drops.
Does the Projectile Speed % from a Quality Freezing Pulse Gem stack with a Faster Projectiles Gem?

Cuz I heard it isn't worth it to get Faster Projectiles if you have a high Quality, but isn't Faster Projectiles always good?

Mine's only 7% though..
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Guys im at a dilemma. I got the chest wich make me unsure i can prolly sell it for 8-9gcp, Or ican stick with it collect and try and trade for fuses for a while to try adn sort it but how do it fit in as coldcaster gear?

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Last edited by nuzebel#4071 on Mar 7, 2013, 6:14:35 PM
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Dagger preferred, specifically a Kris which will have 80% crit as an implicit mod. This provides more DPS than a wand's 20% spelldmg implicit, and allows you to use Whirling Blades.


I'm not too sure this is correct.

In general, if you take the assumption of 5% base spell crit chance, you would have to have over 400 crit multiplier before the +80% global crit modifier becomes more powerful than the +20% spell damage. However, this does not factor in things like elemental proc's on crit, but just saying, you have to have a substantial crit multiplier before it becomes more efficient damage wise.

Right? What am i missing?
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xDownfallx wrote:
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Dagger preferred, specifically a Kris which will have 80% crit as an implicit mod. This provides more DPS than a wand's 20% spelldmg implicit, and allows you to use Whirling Blades.


I'm not too sure this is correct.

In general, if you take the assumption of 5% base spell crit chance, you would have to have over 400 crit multiplier before the +80% global crit modifier becomes more powerful than the +20% spell damage. However, this does not factor in things like elemental proc's on crit, but just saying, you have to have a substantial crit multiplier before it becomes more efficient damage wise.

Right? What am i missing?

You're right, unless my math is wrong. But it comes down to how much you weight Frozen procs. I'd much rather freeze a mob that'd kill me 4% more often, than kill him 10% faster...

In which case Crit is viewed as a defensive stat. And access to Whirling Blades cements that fact even more. But if survival or crits or constant freeze procs isn't your thing, then use a Wand I guess.. But the main reason I went this build, is because I just love freezing people constantly :P
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nuzebel wrote:
Guys im at a dilemma. I got the chest wich make me unsure i can prolly sell it for 8-9gcp, Or ican stick with it collect and try and trade for fuses for a while to try adn sort it but how do it fit in as coldcaster gear?


It's a solid chest. I doubt you could get a better 5l for whatever you can sell it for.

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Animistic wrote:
My lvl 73 coldcaster shadow currently on a break. Been toying with the idea of making it more tanky in sort of kripp-style by replacing my mana leech and faster casting gems on freezing pulse with blood magic and life leech.


I think you'll have to find a way to get significantly more life nodes (or have a Kaom's) for tanking to work. ATM this build usually ends up with about 3k HP, which is not enough to leech tank IMO. Not sure if this is possible without hitting up the marauder start, might be though.


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Serefkana wrote:
Does the Projectile Speed % from a Quality Freezing Pulse Gem stack with a Faster Projectiles Gem?

Cuz I heard it isn't worth it to get Faster Projectiles if you have a high Quality, but isn't Faster Projectiles always good?

Mine's only 7% though..


Yes they stack, and faster projectiles is always good. Partly because it adds very little to the mana cost: you could argue that it would be better to replace it with cold penetration on a 5l, for example, but can you afford the mana?

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xDownfallx wrote:
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Dagger preferred, specifically a Kris which will have 80% crit as an implicit mod. This provides more DPS than a wand's 20% spelldmg implicit, and allows you to use Whirling Blades.


I'm not too sure this is correct.

In general, if you take the assumption of 5% base spell crit chance, you would have to have over 400 crit multiplier before the +80% global crit modifier becomes more powerful than the +20% spell damage. However, this does not factor in things like elemental proc's on crit, but just saying, you have to have a substantial crit multiplier before it becomes more efficient damage wise.

Right? What am i missing?


Well, FP's base crit is 6% and Ice Spear's is 7%. But yes, you're correct that there is a window earlier in the game where 20% spelldmg is superior to 80% crit chance purely for DPS purposes. How long that window lasts depends on the rest of your gear. Also let's not forget that in this early period, wands can't get 20% spelldmg, but only get ~14%.

Taking some example early-mid stats, say you have +100% dmg, 20% crit chance and 240% crit. multi.
-14% spelldmg takes you from a multiplier of 2.00 to 2.14, a 7% DPS increase.

-80% crit gives 4.8% crit chance. The formula for critfactor is [ 1 + CC ( CD - 1 ) ]
So 4.8% increased CC takes your crit factor from 1.28 to 1.35. This ends up being a 5.5% DPS increase.

So the spelldmg does win by a bit. However later on the build will easily have 500%-600% crit damage. If you're twinking with items such as Maligaros, the dagger implicit will overtake the wand implicit more quickly as well.

Last edited by aimlessgun#1443 on Mar 7, 2013, 10:07:01 PM
Made my second charecter according this build. My first one was at lvl 25 when I quited couse i found this guide and I was also trying to focus on FP gem.
So far I love at lvl 55.
I had problems at around lvl 40 and 50 couse I became to squishy. I bellieve one of the reasons is that it is my first charecter (almoast) and i didn`t have any currency to make some great items work for me (mostly links and gem colors on item).
I think i will twick this build a little forward ele res because I hate dieing=) And I die a lot)
Can`t understand if armor is important in this game or is it only hp\es?

When I realized I need more defence I went to resistances and armor.
My stats at lvl 60 are:
1235 HP
Armor 1444
Evasion 948
ES 231
Cold res 75
Fire res 75
Lightning res 68
Chaos -28

Items- all self found or crafted:


skill tree (mainly according to the main build only adding some resists)
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAuMC_gdjB6UI9A5ID8QRlha_F1Qc3B8CIoEkPCaVJ6kqWyycNsU4Gzt8O-FBlkLDSVFJslVLVkpXK1ptWqZd8mHia9ttGXBScNVzU3kDfll_xoIQh9uLeow2jjyRz5UEnaOeoaKjpwinK6dcr5u0OLjKwFHAVMHz0hnVT9bR2CTcx95334TfsOL344TlGfF28-r79fyr

My dps seems fine but I die like a little girl ) So I want ur advise on what to change in my dirrection. Should I forget about armor and build up ES? or am I doing the right thing?
Last edited by PvNKruger#2406 on Mar 9, 2013, 11:16:21 AM

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