[0.10.4b] Bow Marauder (The Shocker (tm)) [**TO BE UPDATED SOON 1.0.0**]

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VenatorPoE wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

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VenatorPoE wrote:

He also stated it is all personal preference, so that doesn't make sense.

But isn't this a LA build? Why run split, if u can get ahold of a 3-4 linked? I'm just trying to figure stuff out, no need to be snappy :P

Not snappy, just giving answers. It -is- an LA build, but I like to use SA early game. If you want to link up LA WED LoH LMP straight up, why not. There is no set advantage over any skill in early game, really, because it all just works. It is mid game, post lvl40, that things start to either shine or fall off (and for an elemental build, LA shines, SA falls off). This is the same thing as going melee for the first 30 levels - I did that, some others started using bows since lvl10.

Ahh ok. That's all I wanted to know, ty :)

edit: ok, I lied.

Which direction do you go in the passive tree first? I was thinking of going over to RT>BM>US>IR then up through the ranger tree to get some dex. After doing those, then hitting the templar/ele dmg stuff last. Is that what you suggest?

What do you guys think about the "bugfix" to LoH and its effect on LA now? I am in the process of selling my Gem because its just not good enough to keep me up against 2 enemies anymore.. :/

RT>BM>US>IR is what I did as well. Next I fetched a 30 DEX node near BM, then moved up for Static Blows, then dipped into Templar tree through the HP ring to get the +50 ele dmg and the Templar HP ring.

It just depends on your gear.


EDIT: "bugfix" to LoH is alright, this is how it is supposed to work. It is still okay, though doesn't really let you troll-facetank everything you see. Life Leech is good but you need much higher damage to pull it off effectively.

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VenatorPoE wrote:

RT>BM>US>IR is what I did as well. Next I fetched a 30 DEX node near BM, then moved up for Static Blows, then dipped into Templar tree through the HP ring to get the +50 ele dmg and the Templar HP ring.

It just depends on your gear.


EDIT: "bugfix" to LoH is alright, this is how it is supposed to work. It is still okay, though doesn't really let you troll-facetank everything you see. Life Leech is good but you need much higher damage to pull it off effectively.

Ahh, so you went for the ranger bow stuff last in your build?

Make sense - if you can get enough dex in gear just go for static blows?

Yep, Static Blows is Mad. Plus it gives you INT for Wrath.

I know that LoH on a totem shouldn't heal the user as opposed to the totem, I just know that before the last patch there were multiple reports that it did. LoH specifically and not Life leach. Theory was since the the RaT uses your weapon to make the attacks (where it pulls all its stats from and such) that the game was counting your weapon as hitting and healing the player. I haven't personally tested it, just know I saw a couple people saying it did before the last patch. There was even someone who specifically posted a dual RaT HC build built around it that I found when I was trying to find confirmation of it lol.

As far as order goes, yeah, I will take back what I said and admit I screwed myself by waiting for a 4L before going BM on my first build lol. Thought I would need LA+LMP+WE+LoH before going BM, but SA+LoH+WE is more than enough. On my alternate version that I am leveling now I did BM/RT->Templar to get the +50% cluster->Berserk->Static (should maybe have swapped berserk and +50% cluster). That build is a little different though since it is skipping IR entirely to see if it is un-needed, but even my original build didn't get IR to until late.

My gear is pretty good so im sure Lifeleech can pull me through, worked on my last 2 Marauders (both didnt die to something Lifeleech could've prevented :p)

Just recently stumbled upon LoH and it worked quite well. After the patch though, its kinda bad for High HP Chars compared to Life Leech.

Main benefit of LoH over LL is that it is instant, while LL caps at 20% your hp/sec (barring quality). While it might be healing me less total per shot, my LMP+Chained LA can still heal me for more than 1/2 my health in a single shot. That said both are still totally viable, I could probably sustain a near permanent 600+HP/second if I used my LL in LA instead of EH just due to the amount of damage i put out lol.

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ShadowyDream wrote:

Main benefit of LoH over LL is that it is instant, while LL caps at 20% your hp/sec (barring quality). While it might be healing me less total per shot, my LMP+Chained LA can still heal me for more than 1/2 my health in a single shot. That said both are still totally viable, I could probably sustain a near permanent 600+HP/second if I used my LL in LA instead of EH just due to the amount of damage i put out lol.

Yea i know what the benefit it, and on low (50%) Regen maps, LoH should triumph.

My last Marauder could keep up 1400 HP/S with Life Leech which was pretty insane. My problem is just, versus 1 or 2 mobs, LoH just blows now. Life Leech wins there, hands down :p

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Slamdancer wrote:

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ShadowyDream wrote:

Main benefit of LoH over LL is that it is instant, while LL caps at 20% your hp/sec (barring quality). While it might be healing me less total per shot, my LMP+Chained LA can still heal me for more than 1/2 my health in a single shot. That said both are still totally viable, I could probably sustain a near permanent 600+HP/second if I used my LL in LA instead of EH just due to the amount of damage i put out lol.

Yea i know what the benefit it, and on low (50%) Regen maps, LoH should triumph.

My last Marauder could keep up 1400 HP/S with Life Leech which was pretty insane. My problem is just, versus 1 or 2 mobs, LoH just blows now. Life Leech wins there, hands down :p

Meh, if its down to two targets I am probably using my EH over my LA, and I have LL in EH and LoH in LA. But even if I did use LA vs two enemies, it can still hit up to 12 times a shot (LMP+chain), 2.85 shots per second, 40ish hp/hit so about 1370 hp/sec if they are standing close enough