Legacy items

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drixor wrote:

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Says will be downfall of game, doesn't mention why.

Please share your enlightenment with us...

I exaggerated of course, but how would you like it if half of the uniques become legacies?


There is no reason to make legacies now, the already overpowered legacy items are nerfed.
They should now rebalance the new items instead of making new legacies

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Do you understand why there are legacy items in the first place? (ill give you a hint its not 100% because of balance, but rather a technical limitation)

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Finkelman wrote:

I'll +1 to getting rid of legacy items. I have multiple accounts with legacy items and this would not bother me in the slightest.

If losing your legacy item really bothers you, I would like to know why. Is it because you would no longer be able to faceroll as much as you did before? Is it because you feel like you would be losing something that you worked hard for? Or is it for another reason?

1. I guarantee you will still faceroll mobs faster than the majority of players even without your legacy Kaoms, BoR, Mjolner, ETC.
2. GGG could probably offer a currency trade in type thing for those items being lost. I.e. when they run the check for getting rid of the items - they set a value for each item and replace the legacy with a new item (or same item with different stats) or just some currency. Or maybe even a micro-transaction item like a free skin or something of your choice.
3. You would find the game more challenging - a.k.a. more fun.
4. You would be getting something new - a.k.a. more fun.
5. Thousands of people play the game without your op item and seem to be doing fine.

There are other ways for GGG to make the vets/supporters happy. They don't need to have OP items that the majority of the community can't have or even find anymore.

Again, what I propose is:

1. You lose your legacy

2. You get something in return for losing your legacy ==> new item, currency, or micro-transaction. This would let you reinvest in to something new and of your choice.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Finkelman wrote:

I'll +1 to getting rid of legacy items. I have multiple accounts with legacy items and this would not bother me in the slightest.

If losing your legacy item really bothers you, I would like to know why. Is it because you would no longer be able to faceroll as much as you did before? Is it because you feel like you would be losing something that you worked hard for? Or is it for another reason?

1. I guarantee you will still faceroll mobs faster than the majority of players even without your legacy Kaoms, BoR, Mjolner, ETC.
2. GGG could probably offer a currency trade in type thing for those items being lost. I.e. when they run the check for getting rid of the items - they set a value for each item and replace the legacy with a new item (or same item with different stats) or just some currency. Or maybe even a micro-transaction item like a free skin or something of your choice.
3. You would find the game more challenging - a.k.a. more fun.
4. You would be getting something new - a.k.a. more fun.
5. Thousands of people play the game without your op item and seem to be doing fine.

There are other ways for GGG to make the vets/supporters happy. They don't need to have OP items that the majority of the community can't have or even find anymore.

Again, what I propose is:

1. You lose your legacy

2. You get something in return for losing your legacy ==> new item, currency, or micro-transaction. This would let you reinvest in to something new and of your choice.

Legacy items for me is a relic of a past time played, 90% of the legacy items I have I found or traded for before they were legacy items. This is an ARPG, where builds are dictated by the passive skill tree and items you build around.

Legacy items aren't limited to unqiues either, people seem to forget about that.

1. The point isn't about facerolling, certain people spend lots of time and energy into trying to perfect a character, reducing that character's power directly by changing an item they already found\have is silly, ARPG's are typically founded on gear based progression.

2. Currency trade is dumb, you literally cannot replace an item just with wealth. I don't care if I have a mirror on standard, if you take away all of my items there (not that I'm playing there much now anyway) then you take away the ability for me to test the things I want to test. Just giving me a lower value item isn't really worth it either, especially items that have had +max res, block, resistances, ect nerfed. There are TONS of builds where legacy implicits, mods, ect only work with those items.

A MTX is a pointless substitute, especially for someone like me with over 2k points left and nothing really left to buy.

3. I already find the game more challenging\fun by playing in the LEGACY FREE TEMP LEAGUES, if you have an issue with legacy items THERE IS LITERALLY A PLACE WHERE THEY ARENT AT. Imagine that.

4. WTF are you even talking about getting something new.

5. And those people didn't find that item, build around that item and enjoy that item like I did. Its an ARPG, just because other people don't use the unqiue or that unique with those mods doesn't mean I shouldn't or can't plan around that. This logic you have here is so flawed I'm not convinced you even own any "real" legacy items. And no the meginords belt doesn't count.

It isn't about making "vets" \ supporters happy its about following their design principle when creating legacy items.



From your suggestion I gain nothing of value from the items I already found, so no thank you. Please stop being so jealous of what others have and just play the game with what you have.

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Finkelman wrote:

If you read my first few sentences, you will see that I said I have multiple accounts with legacy items. I was suggesting something that I would be losing items as well.

1. People spent lots of time and effort making builds that were completely ruined by the new patch (and many patches before this). Yet, you think making a build based on an op legacy item has more merit than someone trying to play the game "supposedly" the way the makers wanted. For what reason?

2. Oh no - its a lower value item that isn't as good or as op. It would still be good. No one said you would be getting a pile of crap.

3. This point is just silly.

4. You could be given one of the new uniques to mess around with instead of your OLD item.

5. Again, I'll go back to point 1. Building around a single item has no more merit than building around a build or skill feature. Funny how you mentioned skill tree before you mentioned items when you talked about importance of the game.

Why are you getting so offended by a suggestion that would give you something for something you lost? I didn't even limit what you would get for the item being taken.

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Eben_GGG wrote:

Hi guys, I've had to remove and edit a few posts here. Please try to keep the discussion civil and on-topic.