[1.0.6] Lunys' LA / Frenzy High End Crit Ranger GUIDE (in-depth analysis) 3 VIDEOS

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For example if you have 100% increased critical strike chance from your passive nodes and you apply this to the 9.35% base crit of my harbinger bow... you end up with 19.70% critical strike chance. A normal bow with 5% base crit would only end up with 10% critical strike chance.

9.35*2=18.7

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kongyuyu wrote:

9.35*2=18.7

Can't argue with that!
Guess i hould have paid more attention in elementary school ;)

I'll fix it right now!

Oh and thanks for pointing this out, much appreciated. If you happen to stumble upon more mistakes, even if its just a spelling mistake i'd love for you to tell me :)

Thanks for posting the levelling guide Lunys. I will be following this build so ill post my feedback on this thread.

This really looks like one of the premier ranger builds floating around, its a pity this thread is not getting the attention it deserves! Good job once again Lunys

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zkng wrote:

Thanks for posting the levelling guide Lunys. I will be following this build so ill post my feedback on this thread.

This really looks like one of the premier ranger builds floating around, its a pity this thread is not getting the attention it deserves! Good job once again Lunys

Thanks :) But considering i posted this guide a couple hours before new year's eve, i am actually pretty pleased by the number of views it got within not even 3 days.

ps: nice build !

edit: i pity you, so I'll explain why you are saying BS. when you play with vaal pact, as this build does, the life leech is calculated after every single hit on a mob. if you hit, let's say, 10 mobs, you will get the life leech after hittting each mob, and BEFORE getting the reflect. hit mob -> leech -> ref -> chain hit other mob -> leech -> ref. so you won't loose more then 5% life after each lightning arrow. secondly, volttaxic compared to the harbringer bow is complete BS, not only because of the dps, but especially because of the freaking 9,35% base crit chance. and his true dps on lightning arrow with chain and LMP is WAY HIGHER then your poor dps on split arrow. going from voltaxic to harbringer will more then double your DPS. i guess ur logics teacher has died early. go play some easier game.

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Lunys wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

Correct, LA has a 70% modifier so really its 18k if you compare it to split it also has the innate ability to hit targets near the initial impact.

Couldn't have summed it up better.
And especially the innate ability, to hit up to 3 additional enemies close to the initial target, is making the huge difference here.

Comparing the damage of 2 different abilities just by taking a look at the tooltip dps is generally a really bad idea.

For the sake of this particular argument though lets a closer look at lightning arrow compared to splitarrow. Please to not quote me on the following, it's going to be a very rough calculation in a perfect scenario + disregarding important factors like the armour or resistances of enemies.

rough calculation disregarding many important factors

Split Arrow combined with Chain = 6 x 3 = up to 18 Hits with one shot.
If we multiply these 18 Hits with a dps of 16k we end up with 288000 actual dps.

(again... i know how unrealistic this screnario is and how many important factors i am disregarding here... but since i will disregard the same factors for both skill, this may still serve as a rough example of the difference)

Now Lightning Arrow combined with LMP & Chain = 4 x 3 x 3 = up to 36 Hits with one shot.
If we multiply these 36 Hits with a dps of 13k we end up with 468000 actual dps.



Split arrows result of 288000 compared to lightning arrows result of 468000 is pretty bad huh.

If you follow this rough calculation your split arrow tooltip dps would have to be 26k in order to be on par with my lightning arrows 13k.
And considering you already are using 3 auras to achieve a dps of 16k... you still got a long way to go.

Anyway, best of luck to you Ultrakiller on your path through the lands of Wraeclast.

lol u have blood magic in ur passive tree and i have to use b m gem, and i invest quite a point to get 3 aura, so be aware of that ok? u dont have any aura when u solo thx thats because of ur OWN BUILD, and at the same time u dont have to use bm gem. So it is ur choice

AND the fact is, i have turn to melee build, cause the fastest way to clear a map is P S build, and for pvp, bow user cant win against same-level melee build. So best of luck to you (sry i dont remember ur name) on your path through the lands of Wraeclast, good luck for ur pvp and pve, hope u can be the best pve and pvp player. lol

I'm new to bow builds/Rangers in general, but I really like this build and I think I'll give it a shot. My question to anyone with knowledge is this: Can this build be used with split arrow instead of lightning arrow? I can't explain why, but I really want to make a SA crit build. If LA is that much better than SA, I'll just follow this build to the letter, but would using SA with this build be viable? And why is LA > SA? Thanks again for the awesome guide and any info anyone would like to share is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Spt2527 wrote:

I'm new to bow builds/Rangers in general, but I really like this build and I think I'll give it a shot. My question to anyone with knowledge is this: Can this build be used with split arrow instead of lightning arrow? I can't explain why, but I really want to make a SA crit build. If LA is that much better than SA, I'll just follow this build to the letter, but would using SA with this build be viable? And why is LA > SA? Thanks again for the awesome guide and any info anyone would like to share is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

First of all, thanks for complimenting my guide :) much appreciated.

I guess this build would work with split arrow. Obviously you could drop the "arcing blows" node in the top right part of the passive tree.
I personally wouldn't see any reason though to use split arrow instead of lightning arrow.

There are multiple reason why lightning arrow generally is the better choice than split arrow.

1. Lightning arrows sinergy with chain + lmp is the main reason. You deal up to 36 hit chaining between enemies with a single shot of lightning arrow. the best way to understand why this is so amazing is to try it out yourself.
2. Lightning arrow applies shock stacks all the time. I'm not saying that its impossible to do this with split arrow, but it's just not as realiable as lightning arrow.
3. 50% of the physical damage being converted to lightning damage grants the attack great synergies with gems like weapon elemental damage, modifiers on gear & passive nodes.
It also helps out a lot when facing physical reflect maps/monsters. (although thats not rly a concern because of the many small hits instead of one big hit.)

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Ultrakiller wrote:

LOL, u r adorably silly, so u can just write' voltaxic is a joke' and some other hilarious comments easily, while others cant argue with it?

What you are trying to achieve here is far from what i call reasonable argumentation.

I'm gonna quote myself here.

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Lunys wrote:

Last but not least let's talk about Voltaxic Rift. If you want to use this bows full potential take a look at Blastrophe's Ranger guide. It is an amazing bow, since chaos damage can not be reflected and you end up immune to reflect, even if you don't use vaal pact.
But compared to a physical bow especially a harbinger bow, Voltaxic's damage is a joke.

At this point i am not that sure anymore, but if you are capable of reading this... you will see that first of all i called Voltaxic Rift AMAZING! why? because it is!

But still the damage compared to a close to perfect harbinger bow is a joke.
And you know what, if this wouldn't be the case, voltaxic would be totally overpowered.
Being immune to reflect must have drawback after all... and in this case its the damage.

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Lunys wrote:

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Ultrakiller wrote:

LOL, u r adorably silly, so u can just write' voltaxic is a joke' and some other hilarious comments easily, while others cant argue with it?

What you are trying to achieve here is far from what i call reasonable argumentation.

I'm gonna quote myself here.

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Lunys wrote:

Last but not least let's talk about Voltaxic Rift. If you want to use this bows full potential take a look at Blastrophe's Ranger guide. It is an amazing bow, since chaos damage can not be reflected and you end up immune to reflect, even if you don't use vaal pact.
But compared to a physical bow especially a harbinger bow, Voltaxic's damage is a joke.

At this point i am not that sure anymore, but if you are capable of reading this... you will see that first of all i called Voltaxic Rift AMAZING! why? because it is!

But still the damage compared to a close to perfect harbinger bow is a joke.
And you know what, if this wouldn't be the case, voltaxic would be totally overpowered.
Being immune to reflect must have drawback after all... and in this case its the damage.

Here is the example, i use voltaxic and i can achieve 16k dps split arrow with chain, and 60k frenzy single target when soloing the map like u, at the same time i have 7500 life good survivability, is my dps a JOKE compared to urs???!!!! plz answer directly