Barrage Wonder Wanderer – how to DEMOLISH maps (1.3.X)

Vaal Pact itself isn't THAT necessary, it's just good in endgame. You can make do without it. It's advisable to have at least normal life leech though, it just gives good survivability and sustainability and makes reflect manageable. That applies regardless of the exact spell you're using to deal damage.

When I was playing that build, I would remove EK for phys damage maps and run with GMP/LMP/elemental stuff, it deals less damage than EK with Hatred on, but still works.

So, I'm guessing your build will have slightly lower performance, but I wouldn't call that a "disaster" area :)

edit: about bows: Quill Rain is almost garbage, a high-crit Harbinger bow will work, Windripper looks awesome. The advantage of wands is that they are much easier and cheaper to get and you can dual-wield them, using the great Twin Terrors node and getting two wands with +spell damage mods on them, which is a boost for all spells, not only EK

edit2: about EK and elemental spells: EK + Hatred deals much more damage and doesn't require projectile support gems like GMP/LMP. It also scales with: physical damage; projectile damage; spell damage. Only fireball can compare to it, but EK is just superior. Its only weakness is phys reflect, which is addressed in this build by getting IR + Grace and life leech + granite/jade surgeon's flasks. Also, EK hits almost instantly, which I happen to like a lot.
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 22, 2014, 9:22:46 AM
Nice! Thanks for the answers. Totally amazing build man. If I'm poor, gonna use barrage and get my damage from Cast on Crit spells, does that make a wand build better for me than bow?

EDIT: I'll probably mess with GMP and LMP and ridiculous spell effects... then eventually get bored with it and switch to EK for the power... circle of life man lol!
Last edited by Zomb1ek1ller#4499 on Mar 22, 2014, 9:35:01 AM
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Zomb1ek1ller wrote:
Nice! Thanks for the answers. Totally amazing build man. If I'm poor, gonna use barrage and get my damage from Cast on Crit spells, does that make a wand build better for me than bow?


I think so, yes.

p.s. the build isn't mine, it's LeMing's ;) Still, I wrote a somewhat more organized guide for it, you might find useful information there.
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 22, 2014, 9:35:58 AM
Much obliged, thank you :)
Bars, your guide is really good. I remember reading this CoC spectral throw build guide called "Frozen Dagger", and it looked maybe a bit janky, but it really stood out to me because it explained the reasoning behind the decisions. Not many guides go into a lot of depth in that area.

Your post does that, it's insanely helpful for certain players like me. It's a really good supplemental to this guide. It would be awesome if the original poster in this thread cross posted you as long as you both wanted to do that.
Thanks. I don't mind cross posting, but I don't insist on it at all. I like it that way: more obscure and buried in the archives :)
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 22, 2014, 10:07:18 AM


Thats my wand i have now. Pretty slow though. But i paid 1 alch for it...heh

Gonna try to get a faster one with similar stats.

Ill probably respec to this in the next day or so. Im excited to try it out.

Btw i plan on using an infernal mantle with the coc firestorm build im trying to mame work. It seems like it would work perfectly. I could also use a more defensive shield since i dont have dual wield nodes in that build iposted.

Edit: Bars nice signature. :)
Last edited by PhreEkGarden#7624 on Mar 22, 2014, 10:26:59 AM
It's a good wand. The low attack speed isn't the end of the world. You can balance it out with a 1.5 wand in the other hand.

edit: actually, I just saw it requires 200 int - you'll need a lot of INT on gear to equip it, so it's not that good
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 22, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
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Bars wrote:
It's a good wand. The low attack speed isn't the end of the world. You can balance it out with a 1.5 wand in the other hand.

edit: actually, I just saw it requires 200 int - you'll need a lot of INT on gear to equip it, so it's not that good


The templar build i posted that you commented on has plenty of int so might be ableto get a wand forcheaper.
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you're the guy with the templar build. I usually don't pay attention to nicknames.
You have to be realistic about these things.
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