The Frozen Dagger (ST/CoC - Self found, noob friendly) [Gameplay Videos]

Hey theory crafting buddy! :)

I'm about to switch to 6-links and was curious what you think:

Chain *OR* LMP + Fireball + Ethereal Knives + Ice Spear

or

Chain *AND* LMP + two of the above spells?

Fireball does the most damage.
EK is Physical Damage so better against Elemental Reflect.
Ice chills and freezes.

Chain + LMP hits everything in the room but costs more mana and I'd have to drop a spell.

Decisions, decisions.

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feyith wrote:

Hey theory crafting buddy! :)

I'm about to switch to 6-links and was curious what you think:

Chain *OR* LMP + Fireball + Ethereal Knives + Ice Spear

or

Chain *AND* LMP + two of the above spells?

Fireball does the most damage.
EK is Physical Damage so better against Elemental Reflect.
Ice chills and freezes.

Chain + LMP hits everything in the room but costs more mana and I'd have to drop a spell.

Decisions, decisions.

I am almost always going to take LMP over Chain. The dmg reduction on chain makes me cringe. I know it's viable, as there are MANY end games builds that use it. But, it's just not for me ;)

Now, having said that I don't have a barrager I can test it with (actually that's not entirely true. I just don't have one in end game and shes not crit based). If your still using a Harp then you 'should' be capable of having most of your shots proc CoC. If your getting an acceptable amount of CoC procs without chain then I would go with LMP>FB>EK>IS. But, that would be something you'll have to test for yourself.

And, as you said, the mana cost on Chain + LMP is going to be outrageous. On top of the fact that you'll do 80% reduced dmg :O

hi mate just thought id post my gear here and any tips you have , in act 2 Merc right now on my First toon and loving the change i made when we caught up last ,, any tips ideas would greatly appreciated ,, i PMed you my current Build to date at level 59 ,

Dont worry about the Glove Gems im leveling the Gems up lol :)

if you see any ideas on gear i should target let me know ,, thanks

Hey Shag, glad to hear things are going well for you.

Thoughts on your passive tree -


As far as your gear ... Well your still leveling. Get what you can, when you can, lol. As long as you can continue to progress then that's all that matters.

But, when it comes time to start finishing the build you need to transition into picking 1 type of gear and sticking with it (barring any build enabling uniques you want to use)

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Juggla1570 wrote:

Added a new video. Acton's Nightmare unique map.

Ooh, that's one of my favorite maps! :)

Also, the way Student_Kutuzov does quotes cracks me up.

Hey again, I menaged to buy GGGBB Voll's (!) and after few hour of playing this build it will become my mine :D It's great, even I still need to change reing and ammy ( and probably dagger ) it really good. I'm 60 now and it's pretty easy to play atm. We will see how it will be on maps ( and dominus :D )

My gear:


and when I was almost happy with new crafted dagger : after 2x crit + mana ... fire res comes to it :/

@Solo -
Glad things are going well for you.
As far as Dom is concerned, he is this builds weakness. Now I haven't done any testing to find a good skill combo for him. I don't like running Dom and Piety. I'd much rather just roll a map.
But for the few times I have run him, he is about the only thing in the game I have problems with (outside of ridiculous rare map mods). You can blow up his minions without issue. And he actually dies pretty quickly. But, his 2 form is killer. You wont have quite enough burst to pop him before. blood rain. And you can only take 1-2 hit's of his cleave before you bite the dust.

My idea for him would be to run your normal ST/CoC for the 1st phase of rare and unique monsters. Then have cyclone/coc/ek/lgoh instead of Double Strike for his melee phases. But, again this is just theorycrafting.

Hello again. Juggla, could u check out my equip and say is there something to correct?


P.S. btw do u think combo Leap Slam+Multistrike+CoC+few spells like Novas will work?

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Also, I know your still depending a lot on physical dmg. IDK if you ever intend to go with CoC at any point. But if you do, you need to drop 'Repartee' and the 2x '1 handed dmg' nodes flanking it. Fill in the last DW block node to connect the tree. Then you'll have 2 points to play with. Respectively you'll need to drop the 3 dmg nodes just before 'Haste'. You then have the option to pick up the 3 projectile nodes. Or just fill in the dex nodes below and save yourself another point for something else.

yeah im still depending on that too level , but thanks that is my next project after i get the other things tidied up ,,

the one problem i seem to have it a little Mana Shortage , im only sitting on 402 Mana and as you can imagine i can run 2 Auras with that and still going Ooom alot

Update on Gems / sockets / links

i have 4 pieces that have 4 sockets linked , haven't got a 5 L , i just cant seem to get the right mix , this is what i have so far ,, any thoughts on this ?



thinking about investing in some gems ? your thoughts mate ?

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Student_Kutuzov wrote:

Hello again. Juggla, could u check out my equip and say is there something to correct?


P.S. btw do u think combo Leap Slam+Multistrike+CoC+few spells like Novas will work?

Well your going for IIR build so there's not much I can put in as far as your gear. It will jsut have to be a trial and error for you I think.

Leapslamp does not synergize well with CoC. Even with multistrike and massive amounts of attk speed it still hits very slowly. And since CoC has a cooldown even if you hit 15 monsters with 1 leapslam you still only have the chance to proc each spell once every time you hit the gound.

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Shaghar wrote:

the one problem i seem to have it a little Mana Shortage , im only sitting on 402 Mana and as you can imagine i can run 2 Auras with that and still going Ooom alot

thinking about investing in some gems ? your thoughts mate ?

Yah mana is problematic until you can get a lot on your gear as well as a little mana regen. You pretty much HAVE to run clarity. I put mine on my HP with bloodmagic (with the aura passives a lvl 6 clarity reserves 237 of my hp).

And that cold snap is doing nothing for you atm. Your better off to put some other added dmg in that slot. I'm assuming your using double strike as your finisher for the IIR. And idky you have Dual Strike + splash. ST should be your AoE. I would dump the splash and add some more dmg to your Dual Strike for high single target dmg.

Just some thoughts.