[VIDEO]The Battle Mage/Witch - CI cold crit [NEMESIS]

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Andreanne wrote:

Really ? I though the 20%Q mana leech would had been enough to subtain the mana and as for alpha's howl since u are running IR I thought the extra evasions would compensate for the missing ES, so how do would I improve dmg w/o compromising survival in the long run ? Through gear and skill nodes only ? I dont think I can find a better wand than the one you have , hell I can't even find one close than the one you have at least for now or maybe I should have enough dmg already I guess I'll just try it and see current witch is 72

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theamazingjojo wrote:

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

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theamazingjojo wrote:

I dont get you people. The guy has a sick gearset with enough dmg and ES coming from them alone (6900 ES with a low ES shield and helm), and you all dont seem to understand how VP works. It can kill you with flicker strike if you still do too much damage, on freeze pulse the damage is so relatively low that it will only kill on extreme cases like double reflect and -max ... IF you dont pay attention. He is only a few points away from it in the tree. That keystone is a godsend for FP CI.

to be honest your math was wrong, you have to know the spell damage i do before you can even start using the math :/

i had 7.2k ES and doing 75+ maps less then 6k ES is not an option you will just get destroyed

I said you had 6900 ES, not 6k ... I was pretty close. Its funny you talk about destroyed when thats exactly what happened to you because you didnt take vaal pact ... lol ironic as fuck

to be honest your math was wrong, you have to know the spell damage i do before you can even start using the math :/

[Removed by Admin] Your actual dmg number doesnt matter. Your damage per hit is a constant, x.

You leech 0.088 of x
You take 0.18 x 0.25 of x in single reflect and 75 res = 0.045
You take 0.33 x 0.25 of x in double reflect and 75 res = 0.0825

You can see you are outleeching both single and double reflect, well with double reflect you are just outhealing it ... but you cannot die. And if you pop a topaz you keep overhealing. If you hit a million mobs with reflect at once *with vaal pact* you still dont die because all the leech is done on a per hit basis in the same instance in time, and freeze pulse doesnt do enough damage in one hit to kill you, ever. Even the sickest geared FP will not have enough dmg.


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why do you think EVERY FP CIer runs VP huh? I know how much spell damage you have ... you posted your tree and your gear. And to be honest, it wouldnt matter if I didnt know it. I gave you an example which showed you would not die with 500% increase and 900% crit multi, which you simply do not have. You have LESS. 273 max freeze pulse damage and 50% effectiveness from GMP is the same for every player using a 6link without empower. The math is pretty fucking simple to understand, and there is nothing flawed about it, its not theorycraft but something derived from the game mechanics ... if you cant understand it you should go back to school and learn something. Crit chance, cast speed, enemy resists, screen dps, do not matter. It is raw PER HIT damage that matters with vaal pact, get this once and for all. A million hits at once dont matter because there is no cap like without VP and all the damage - leech - heal action is done on PER HIT BASIS in the same instance in time. FP does not kill you with one hit before the leech is applied, because it doesnt do enough dmg like a fucking 100k flicker crit would. (Flicker also has the issue of armor effectiveness being so low at that point, not just the very high raw dmg)

Here it goes for the last time ... you CANNOT die with vaal pact on freezing pulse vs single or double reflect when you have a level 20 life leech gem (you dont need quality with VP), you can die to double reflect with -max res IF you dont utilise sapphires and purity of ice. And you still have time to react and wait for your ES to regen. If you ask someone else in your group who has CI VP and is experienced with it, you will see why I am right.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/540894 --> ''Reflect is NOT an issue with this build''.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/488398 --> Back when PA / RF Was still disgustingly OP, he is doing tons more per hit dmg than you are, and look what he says

I managed to make myself nearly unkillable in the majority of the maps. This specc can play anything but Blood Magic. Yes, even Double Reflect -Max and No Regen maps without getting into trouble (gotta pay attention though)

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Andreanne wrote:

Alright ill probably go and try some maps later after I buy everything since im still @ work T .T but if my math is right looking at the tree I should have aroud 6.5k ish ES ill post my full stats once I get everything still can't get my hand on a good want with cast speed and cold dmg :(

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domynik05 wrote:

I started this build yesterday. It's pretty good but i struggle vs monster with big hp, maybe just becouse it's not so great early. I also got lucky and got Eye of Chayula at 21 xD.

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Duckz wrote:

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theamazingjojo wrote:

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Andreanne wrote:

i haven't started yet im gonna do so tommorow but i am always in the search of improving dmg so i was just wondering

alpha's howl = terribad choice

You need the ES from the helm, you dont really need 10k ES like this terribad guy is saying so he doesnt get one shot from a bear with 10k ROFLS, but you need in excess of 6-7k easy for an endgame build (high 70ish maps).

Dream fragments is an amazing ring, it has everything for this build. You need one.

Damage from FP is always getting better and better as you level, if you cant get a good wand / shield try to squeeze out as much as you can from the tree. Do not obsess too much on dmg at the expense of ES or other important things though, Freeze pulse shotguns with 5 projectiles with GMP at a very decent projectile speed, and good base crit and cast speed. Tooltip dps is very nonindicative of FP's power, its very strong for both packs and single target.

Get Vaal Pact. The best CI FP players use vaal pact. It saves your ass so many times, (not just makes you literally immune to any reflect out of -max), thats its a godsend. There is no downside to vaal pact unlike with a life build or a low life / es build, because you are immune to chaos damage and you can regen out of combat in extreme cases where you take too much damage at the very end of a fight, or are bleeding without a staunching flask, etc. Plus you cant use flasks to recoup ES anyway.

you sure know a lot for having an account for one month, and I really hope you are a vaal pact salesman irl. I'm guessing you're referring to me when you say this "terribad guy" and that you need 10k es in order to not get one shot. I was more getting at the fact that you can never have enough es to survive. I'll leave this here, http://www.twitch.tv/etup/b/488890186?t=3h45m40s and watch bobilido or whatever his name is but he has crazy armour and 11k es and a simple bear hits him for about 10k with the right mods. I'm going to recommend you making your own build thread since you are the ultimate ci vp fper and I'm sure you will be a very successful thread/life as a fper. Good luck sir.

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theamazingjojo wrote:

Now the vid you showed me ... thats some insane shit right there. He didnt die hence its not a 1 shot, you need to learn some basic english and what 1 shot means. He has no armor, he says it himself. Listen closely. The mods were powerful crits (more crit chance and dmg), vuln and extra dmg as lightning, and there was a 50% physical aura vulture nearby. Wtf do you expect? MY guess is it scaled with triple shock stack and it was in fact a crit. Thats a very one off situation, and if anything it showcases how fucked up spike dmg is in this game. Are you saying everyone should have 10k ES because of this?

Btw, want to know how his ES recovered right back up and saved him from near RIP? Yepp ... wait for it ... Vaal Pact.

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

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theamazingjojo wrote:

Now the vid you showed me ... thats some insane shit right there. He didnt die hence its not a 1 shot, you need to learn some basic english and what 1 shot means. He has no armor, he says it himself. Listen closely. The mods were powerful crits (more crit chance and dmg), vuln and extra dmg as lightning, and there was a 50% physical aura vulture nearby. Wtf do you expect? MY guess is it scaled with triple shock stack and it was in fact a crit. Thats a very one off situation, and if anything it showcases how fucked up spike dmg is in this game. Are you saying everyone should have 10k ES because of this?

Btw, want to know how his ES recovered right back up and saved him from near RIP? Yepp ... wait for it ... Vaal Pact.

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now you are just being rude i guess ill have to report you again, your rage is not welcome here. people are here to learn diffrent builds and have fun in this game, and you are ruining the joy of it for them. what is it with you and vaal pact? NO one is against VP here and still you go about it? can you just drop it?