[Strongest Solo Variation: Projectile Madness Spectres] LMP/GMP Ice Spear 2x Totem 2x Curse 3x Traps

U cannot. Precisely u can cast arc but it won't do damage which also means it won't shock.

Only if u use a spark-totem.
Last edited by TheloniusMonk#3319 on Jan 23, 2013, 3:33:45 PM
You could use remote mine arc or something. But yeah, no one said there was no nerf at all.

The thing is, even without shocking this build works just fine.

Even more so in a group, where you bring the control and others bring shock and dps.
Well that sucks. Wouldn't this build be weaker overall then? How will you deal with frost resistant mobs?

What would be a good substitute for losing arc? Zombies?
Last edited by renroval#5813 on Jan 23, 2013, 3:46:10 PM
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renroval wrote:
Well that sucks. Wouldn't this build be weaker overall then? How will you deal with frost resistant mobs?


Of course it is weaker. That's why I mentioned that it got nerfed. If it wouldn't be weaker after nerfing it, what would have been the point? :P

Double Curses should take care of resistances quite comfortably. Since there are some new nasty very high resistance mobs, Cold Penetration might also help in those scenarios.

I belief getting another curse via uniques will be even more awesome now. Throwing around 3 curses is pretty nasty <3

Elemental Weakness, Frostbite and Projectile Weakness should be hilarious. Might also add Enfeeble here and there to trivialize the content a little.
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Unimatrix wrote:
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renroval wrote:
Well that sucks. Wouldn't this build be weaker overall then? How will you deal with frost resistant mobs?


Of course it is weaker. That's why I mentioned that it got nerfed. If it wouldn't be weaker after nerfing it, what would have been the point? :P

Double Curses should take care of resistances quite comfortably. Since there are some new nasty very high resistance mobs, Cold Penetration might also help in those scenarios.

I belief getting another curse via uniques will be even more awesome now. Throwing around 3 curses is pretty nasty <3

Elemental Weakness, Frostbite and Projectile Weakness should be hilarious. Might also add Enfeeble here and there to trivialize the content a little.


Are there other ways to provide the Arc debuff? If not, what is a good substitute for losing Arc? Summons?
We might have to wait for hypershatter to comment on that one.

I personally found myself not very often using Arc anyway. I was busy running around to dodge stuff and cursing - or even ramping up more mobs to the shattering party :D
You just pretty much aggro everything, curse them and drag them over to your totems for some ice cracking? :P

Does this build kill fast even without arc? Or are other builds going to be clearing maps much faster than this build as other builds didn't seem to get hit with a giant nerf bat like dual totems nerf.


IMPORTANT QUESTION:

Why do this build with totems and not just cast spells yourself and use minions as meat shield? Is this build more effective?
Last edited by renroval#5813 on Jan 23, 2013, 3:55:13 PM
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renroval wrote:

IMPORTANT QUESTION:

Why do this build with totems and not just cast spells yourself and use minions as meat shield? Is this build more effective?


why do we have different builds in this game? why dont we all just play the same build on every single character?

i have a whole page of explanations covering almost everything and you cant read the pros and cons at least?
IGN: hyperculler (torment)
Last edited by hypershatter#4607 on Jan 23, 2013, 3:58:30 PM
I did but it involved having Arc lightning you spam to amplify damage but now you can't spam it. What other alternatives are there for arc lightning replacement that would be beneficial to this build?
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renroval wrote:
I did but it involved having Arc lightning you spam to amplify damage but now you can't spam it. What other alternatives are there for arc lightning replacement that would be beneficial to this build?


Gotta do theorycrafting yourself man, i am too busy atm. to do the testings.

Pull up a list of skills and think how you can use it in ur spare hand.

-traps
-mines
-aura/buff spells now may help you because CI no longer block chaos dmg done by self-buffs

just be creative and think what u can do. u dont have to be fixated and getting shock one way or another, many other ways to boost dmg.
IGN: hyperculler (torment)

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