Saint Vitus: Physical crit ranger guide[Always Updated]

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Baron01 wrote:

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linkstatic wrote:

I was planning to move out of Crit, and I have just about enough points to reach RT after respeccing my crit points. However, I have 140+ STR, RT + Iron Grip (I'm assuming this is taken, cos it's the shortest way to get to RT) I get 28% Increased Physical Damage (140 / 10 (*2%)), would that actually deal more damage than the crit build? I'm thinking a big NO, but you do get to survive Reflect mobs.

Is this a good tradeoff? I'm almost at 500% Crit Multiplier, so my gear would be a little wasted with all that Crit Chance and Crit Multiplier. Your input would be awesome ^^ 30 Regrets ain't cheap, should I decide to respec back into Crit :P (I have 15 Crit Multiplier/Chance nodes to remove, and 15 points away from RT + IG)

I dont think physical damage build without crit would be competitive. I was addid crit nodes only at the end of my build but I increasingly felt week at around lvl60--point where most flat damage increasing nodes and defensive passives are taken.

I have stayed away from critical hit damage nodes from passive talent tree on purpose. I only have 85% multiplier from passive tree, 50% native and 110% from a support gem. I rather go after critical strike chance nodes in passive tree because I want to score critical hits more often in general play. ti lets me survive critical hit on physical damage reflect mob if I'm careful. If I have 500% critical multiplier I would be dead in 1 critical hit-I still can 1-shot myself if I crit on rare and the shot pierce through and crit on another mob nearby.

The whole reflect on critical hit mechanic should be rewored. It makes crit-based builds very unfriendly and almost not viable. Elemental reflect is easily mitigated by resistances but armor simply does not provide the same mitigation for physical damage reflected back.

I've gotten every possible Crit Strike Chance node possible within reason (like not going too deep into Shadow/Witch trees) so I've got an abundance of Crit Chance and Multiplier :)

The damage for a non-crit Physical build I expect to be pretty low, but VD did say he would take RT either way. I don't have the currency (or more like unwilling to spend that much) on respeccing to IG + RT and respeccing back into Crit if I don't like it :P

Can anyone give me some tips / pointers for this build?

im having problems killing things / staying alive im not sure if its my gear or what...

Edit - currently using RoA / Frenzy as my two abilities with grace up


heres my gear...


I have a feeling most of my gear is garbage but i hacnt gotten anything better...

thanks!

About the mana leech with 3 auras. I found that I am able to support 3 auras with minimal mana leech as long as I support it with mana regen. I think that I only have 5% mana leech, but 100% mana regen. Currently running haste, purity, and grace with 110 mana left over. Never have a problem reaching the bottom of my mana pool unless I dont hit anything.

Sorry if this has been posted already (I have read this thread many times over the last month) but what is the ideal DPS for 4 linked frenzy? I am currently thinking frenzy + mana leach + faster attacks + increased crit dmg. I am not sure if I could sustain swapping crit dmg for added fire dmg.

Also thanks for this build it has been working pretty well. I am level 69 and currently spending currency like crazy trying to change my 6s chest into a 5L.

Why go all the way to the left of the tree - to get one skill - "hits cant be evaded" - and at the same time recommend Lioneye's bow - which grants basically the same?

Currently at 45 lvl and don't know what to do - will post stats/items later..

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Shieze wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already (I have read this thread many times over the last month) but what is the ideal DPS for 4 linked frenzy? I am currently thinking frenzy + mana leach + faster attacks + increased crit dmg. I am not sure if I could sustain swapping crit dmg for added fire dmg.

Also thanks for this build it has been working pretty well. I am level 69 and currently spending currency like crazy trying to change my 6s chest into a 5L.

4L Frenzy? With or without Frenzy charges? I can go test it out, I've 5L Frenzy so I'll just remove 1 gem :) Also have a max of 7 Frenzy Charges, so let me know how many charges you want me to test at :D

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BlackPawLynx wrote:

Why go all the way to the left of the tree - to get one skill - "hits cant be evaded" - and at the same time recommend Lioneye's bow - which grants basically the same?

Currently at 45 lvl and don't know what to do - will post stats/items later..

How many people can realistically ever get a Lioneye's Glare? -_-

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linkstatic wrote:

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Shieze wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already (I have read this thread many times over the last month) but what is the ideal DPS for 4 linked frenzy? I am currently thinking frenzy + mana leach + faster attacks + increased crit dmg. I am not sure if I could sustain swapping crit dmg for added fire dmg.

Also thanks for this build it has been working pretty well. I am level 69 and currently spending currency like crazy trying to change my 6s chest into a 5L.

4L Frenzy? With or without Frenzy charges? I can go test it out, I've 5L Frenzy so I'll just remove 1 gem :) Also have a max of 7 Frenzy Charges, so let me know how many charges you want me to test at :D

4L including frenzy. Currently I am setup with Frenzy + Increased crit dmg + mana leech + faster attacks. I do have 7 frenzy charges. I guess one thing that makes crit dmg more viable as well is I got lucky on this drop it is 15% quality.

I am just starting to go down the crit passive branches though so I am guessing this will be the best option. I don't think culling strike will be any improvement.

Just did a test. 5.9K with 7 Frenzy Charges and Haste + Hatred. 6.8k with Increased Crit Strikes in 5L configuration :)

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linkstatic wrote:

Just did a test. 5.9K with 7 Frenzy Charges and Haste + Hatred. 6.8k with Increased Crit Strikes in 5L configuration :)

Nice DPS I am only hitting about 2.6k right now. What I was actually asking though (I guess I did not word it well) is what are the ideal 3 support gems to use with frenzy.

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Shieze wrote:

...what is the ideal DPS for 4 linked frenzy? I am currently thinking frenzy + mana leach + faster attacks + increased crit dmg. I am not sure if I could sustain swapping crit dmg for added fire dmg.

Also thanks for this build it has been working pretty well. I am level 69 and currently spending currency like crazy trying to change my 6s chest into a 5L.

Asking for a ideal or expected DPS of a skill is rather moot. Any answer will depend on gear, passive tree and auras used by each player. It is more important to understand ideal support gem setup. If you want a reference figure for Frenzy DPS just to check where you stand that is fine but it wont tell you much more.

Frenzy 4L setup: Faster Attacks+Added Fire+Increased Critical Damage
- swap any of the supported skills for Mana Leech, obviously pick the one with least added DPS
- take note that 4L is the basic setup when I feel Frenzy is marginally better than Burning Arrow (Burning Arrow was more efficient in 3L setup)

Last but not least, do not craft 5L! Buy it for a fraction of what you spend on getting it yourself. Buying is always better and cheaper method of upgrading your gear unless you already have very good piece of gear that warrant spending lots of currency on getting 5 or 6 link.

FYI: My current Frenzy setup is Faster Attacks+Added Fire Damage+Increased Critical Damage+Increased Critical Strikes. Full Frenzy stacks (7) with Hatred and Haste aura give me 9.7k DPS. I can sustain my mana usage with 4% leech from gear and passive tree. I usually swap increased critical strikes for increased rarity for farming Docks, Lunaris Temple and most lvl66 maps.