Chris: ALT-F4 LEGIT STRAT

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Nycro wrote:

I want to play hardcore like it's actually hardcore, I don't think logging out whenever I'm about to die is very "hardcore". GGG constantly adds mechanics that force log out or you'll instantly die. This is one of the reasons why I just quit PoE again.

Now that the devs have said themselves that they're balancing the game based on people who abuse log out/alt f4 I'll probably never be coming back to hardcore leagues again.

Cool story troll.

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Nycro wrote:

GGG constantly adds mechanics that force log out or you'll instantly die.

I've yet to see such mechanics, provided you play safe. Care to give an example? And no, the new Bleed mechanic is not that, you can just bring a Staunching flask.

In my opinion, the best argument against "Alt+F4" is that it breaks immersion. I'd love to see portal mechanics changed so you instantly enter the portal you make, removing your character from the current instance or making it invulnerable when portal was cast to avoid loading issues. Since portal scrolls cannot be bound to a hotkey, this'd still mean you need input pair of keyboard input followed by mouse input (Open inventory, click portal scroll), similar to Esc+Exit.

One thing I love about this "issue" is that it once again shows GGG standing firmly behind their belief of how the game should be, ignoring the vocal minority. Keep up the good work.

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Nycro wrote:

I want to play hardcore like it's actually hardcore, I don't think logging out whenever I'm about to die is very "hardcore". GGG constantly adds mechanics that force log out or you'll instantly die. This is one of the reasons why I just quit PoE again.

Now that the devs have said themselves that they're balancing the game based on people who abuse log out/alt f4 I'll probably never be coming back to hardcore leagues again.

No you don't, stop fooling yourself. If esc->logout was disabled, hardcore would be dead like in D3.

Save and exit is my shit yo.

When there is an internet connection requirement, it can't be fair at all with or without alt-f4. I don't want to lose my time because of a third-party which I can't control and that's why I don't play HC in general.

There are other consequences of forcing time-delay on exit and some ARPGs especially PoE can't withstand those now or in the near future. I can't imagine countless hate threads about character deaths.

Even if GGG balance the game around time-delay on exit, the disadvantages it brings to the core experience will be far more crucial than the advantages the game gets.

Esc-log out just saved my ass a couple of minutes ago from the corrupted blood mod.. It was the first time I came across to this mod and had no idea what it does. After a couple of spectral throws I was like ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohfak *esc-log out at 50 hp*

Still alive..

The instant log out is only potentially an issue in Hardcore, where it mitigates the penalty for bad decisions.

In non-Hardcore game types the problem isn't with the instant escape, it's with the ability to return to the area with full recovery. (i.e. the real problem is with Portal) Because of this fact, players have essentially infinite health and mana regeneration, so the only way to provide threat to in-the-know players is by instagibbing them. No other mechanic is relevant because they can full recover at any time (last I checked, when playing solo the instance even pauses while you're away so any enemies/boss with healing aren't even regenerating in the interval!)

I don't see how this could be considered anything but a serious impediment to designing boss fights in particular. I'd be interested to hear what mechanic currently in the game the developers think can only exist in this environment.

why not turn it into a game mechanic though?
just have a skill that instantly teleport's you to town, at the cost of loosing alot of xp
then you can put a timer on logging out

i know this isn't ideal and still kinda cheap but hey, it punishes you for it atleast.

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dragonbite wrote:

why not turn it into a game mechanic though?
just have a skill that instantly teleport's you to town, at the cost of loosing alot of xp
then you can put a timer on logging out

i know this isn't ideal and still kinda cheap but hey, it punishes you for it atleast.

I also suggested this since esc->logout breaks the immersion.

Yeah, m-muh immersion!

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This is one of the reasons why I just quit PoE again.

Kinda bored of hearing that phrase.