We players want an auction house
"You should reread; I accepted it. (And it's not some recent edit, either.) Although in this case, when I say "make trading more of a skill-tester," I mean making it more resistant against time spent. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Nov 18, 2013, 10:40:07 PM
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My point is, and I want to reiterate this, is taht GGG can't do anything practical to limit peoples access to information to make trading harder. There only 2 paths for GGG
1. Accept that they have to maintain an online economy, accept the huge variance in items (and not do anything about it), accept the very steep gear checks that happen in merc, and hence accept that a AH style system will happen as a result of this 2. Try and maintain GGG's original version where trading is minimal and its done by bartering, and the only realistic way for GGG to do this is to make the exiles more self reliant (that is, able to progress more without resorting to trading). This can be done by removing some RNG, adding in goals (similar to races, you get a number of points and then you get an item, except goals can work differently, such as skewing GGG's random seeds to give a higher chance of getting an item you want), etc etc etc |
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Please do not try to speak for the community. I think the ppl who want an AH are a very small portion of the community.
I will admit that the current trade system is a bit flawed by we all know what an AH does to ARPG's. We got empirical evidence of this with D3. I would prefer a better way for players that are online to list specific items they want to sell while they are in game, but not the garbage pile that an AH becomes. The trade chat obviously is not a good way to trade. Its all spam, and its even hard to hover over items to see their stats without the chat running away from you. All we really need is something similar to what D2 had without turning the public parties bored into a giant spam fest as well. A separate part of the community board in game where players can create a public party with the name of their trade so ppl who want to buy can join their game would be more than enough. But this is just my idea, I do not speak for the entire community. |
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" You are suggesting this crap?  I'm tired of seeing this already. This does not help. ------------ Look. Players are using public parties to use it as a proxy Auction house / Trade Hub. Players are using poe.xyz as an Auction house / Trade hub. Trade channels are spammed and not viable for finding good items for most players. The forums are spammed and not viable for manually searching for items. The forums are clunky and tedious for organizing and posting trade threads. It takes so long for players to get any sort of offer or trade completed. (From the time of post to the time of the offer) What more evidence do you want? What more do you need? Players had outcried for sooooooo long to add a different loot system. And eventually GGG opened up their minds to the idea. I see no more threads complaining about the loot system. None. Players want some sort of central trade hub. And we are not getting it. We are voicing our complaints to no avail. We will continue to voice our complaints until something is done about it. No amount of negative arguments and theoretical what-if scenarios are going to change this. If you want to have a discussion, give hard facts and evidence. Not biased opinions. ---------------- GGG can settle this matter once and for all. Add a front page poll. Keep the poll open for, I don't know, 2-3 weeks. Players can only vote if they have one, level X character. One vote per account. "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." Last edited by Hixxie#2252 on Nov 19, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
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It doesn't much matter what players think. GGG have the economic data and we don't. They are going to base their decision on those data. Otherwise we end up with broken economies much faster.
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" My suggestion was a separate tab just for trade public parties... that would mitigate this kind of spam. Please try to read an entire post before commenting. |
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I have read the post.
I still don't want to see that kind of interaction. It still posses the same problem. It's slow. Having to manually search for items through a separate trade tab for parties, is just as slow as all the other ways of finding or selling items. How would your suggestion SOLVE the problem of saving time? How is it more efficient? How is it better? How is it worse? Having a central trade hub, where players can search for items much faster, see various prices, and fast contact of players, saves time. It helps players learn value of items. It helps players get reward for looted items faster. It makes a central location for all trade interaction. Not using 3 separate sources for the same thing. "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."
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" True, we cannot see all the data. The problem, in my opinion, is that there is a large portion of the community that does not know the value of items. They have a hard time putting value on currency and items. This is mostly dictated by players who have a better understanding. If a central trade hub was added, you will alleviate the player base that is struggling with this. What happens is you get more players that have a better understanding of prices, and can finally provide input to prices. The market will adjust itself accordingly. HOW that market adjusts, no one can say for certain. I highly doubt it would cause a total destruction of the economy, or rapid inflation or deflation of currency. What I expect to happen is currency prices fluctuate slightly, and more items are flooded into the market. Players will be able to trade much faster and smoothly. For a time, I think it will greatly increase trade frequency and currency flow. "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."
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" I also stated that my idea was a personal opinion. Yet you still attack me for giving up my idea's. What is a forum for if not for ppl to give their idea's. Your attack was not warranted, and just plain rude. Give your idea in addition to mine... don't just attack mine as if it is not valid. To compensate for the addition of an AH, GGG would have to lower the drop rate and mod roll rate of certain mods and items to compensate for the fact that players would have such easy access to anything they wanted. Last edited by ntall1#6671 on Nov 19, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
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