[1.2] Rathik's EK build +40k DPS/52.3%Crit/+375% Multiplier. Anti-Reflect. "The Immortal Shuriken"

heya

i really love ur build but i still have some questions!

first of all my current gear ;)




my passives atm at lvl 71 are these

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABAcFQgdjDkgRlhZvFr8XLxmFGjgabB8CJDwkqiaVJ6kpTyycLR8vbzbFNuk62EGWRKtJUUyzTdhQMFBCVUtVrlXGVdZXK1ptXyph4mKsZOdtGW17cFJwu3NTfll_xoCkgW-CEIIehX2H24hCjDaMdo9Gj6aQVZ2jnaqdrp48oi6io6cIp1ynhK6zwFHB889l0NDWndgk2RPa3dte37DjauOE5CLr5Ow48h3z6vrS_Ks=


so now the questions

1) i cant run hatred deter and carity i dont have enough mana for a single ek than, guess i have to wait until my redused mana gem is lvl hihg enough right?

2) my dps without powercharges is 3,5k, that seems a bit low if i see urs ._. what should i change for a significant dps boost? i speecd some life odes more cuz ts my first "high"lvl poe/nemesis char and i wanna be very safe ( thats why im running lifeleech instead of iron will too=

3 what would be the next upgrade i should do if i cant afford a 6 l chest

thy a lot for ur help

grat work
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Rathik2 wrote:
You need the faster casting gem because the EK base cast speed is very slow and the animation takes to long. There isn't much else you can add in your links anyway.

The faster you cast, the more mana you burn in order to get the same DPS.
If you can't spam EK then is not a DPS gain is it?
My 6L EK costs 109 mana per attack and I cast ever 0.56 seconds. That means I need about 200 mana regen in order to spam it. If I add more cast speed it means I need to add more mana regen as well in order to keep up, to up my DPS. But if I add spell power/crit chance/crit multiplier I am upping my DPS with the need of more mana regen.
Its just common sense.

And Scion is not ideal for this build because she wastes to many points on +10 INT nodes traveling across the skill tree to get to the needed nodes.


You can try this but it will have less life and less DPS compare to the witch.
You will need to get more skill points in order to be on par with the witch.

Scion (103/120)


Witch (my current skill tree 103/120)



Why do we need Elemental Dominion if EK does Phy Dmg?
I see Scion takes 4 INT nodes to reach the Witch tree after Harrier. Is that much?
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MuFeR wrote:
I'm pretty sure this will be a bad question since im pretty new but why do u have both enfeeble and critical weakness? doesnt the one overlap the other?


Yes they do.
I mostly use crit weakness in groups so I can 1 shot monsters more easy.
Enfeeble is used on bosses mostly.
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tntkiller wrote:
got this armor today is this one usefull and maby worth trying to 5-6 socket it?



seems to be a very nice armor



so got this shame on the 6% roll but maby its worth to reroll it

what do you think?

No, they armour is very bad.
The dagger is worthless for the build. Actually not just for the build, the dagger in general is worthless, only good for chaos recipe.

Get a divinarius, its cheap with good stats, upgrade when you can afford a better rare or void battery.

Never craft a dagger for this build if is not ilvl 79 or higher.
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[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Nov 8, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
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gingha wrote:
heya

i really love ur build but i still have some questions!

first of all my current gear ;)




my passives atm at lvl 71 are these

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABAcFQgdjDkgRlhZvFr8XLxmFGjgabB8CJDwkqiaVJ6kpTyycLR8vbzbFNuk62EGWRKtJUUyzTdhQMFBCVUtVrlXGVdZXK1ptXyph4mKsZOdtGW17cFJwu3NTfll_xoCkgW-CEIIehX2H24hCjDaMdo9Gj6aQVZ2jnaqdrp48oi6io6cIp1ynhK6zwFHB889l0NDWndgk2RPa3dte37DjauOE5CLr5Ow48h3z6vrS_Ks=


so now the questions

1) i cant run hatred deter and carity i dont have enough mana for a single ek than, guess i have to wait until my redused mana gem is lvl hihg enough right?

2) my dps without powercharges is 3,5k, that seems a bit low if i see urs ._. what should i change for a significant dps boost? i speecd some life odes more cuz ts my first "high"lvl poe/nemesis char and i wanna be very safe ( thats why im running lifeleech instead of iron will too=

3 what would be the next upgrade i should do if i cant afford a 6 l chest

thy a lot for ur help

grat work


Yea, mana will come with higher level of reduced mana. You didn't really had to ask that :).
You can take EB and use 1-2 armour/es items, that will add to your mana pool and mana regen.
Its only 1 skill point.

First of all my witch is level 86 and decently itemized. You are still missing a lot of DPS nodes and aura enhanced nodes that add to the DPS from hatred.

DPS will come mostly from weapon, then shield, then amulet, in that order.
If you are playing on nemesis focus on survival first.

I can't decide for you what to upgrade. Just look at my gear and try to match it or surpassed it.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Nov 8, 2013, 10:33:00 PM
So, Rathis .. Cast when damage taken only triggers 1 spell when activated, yet on 2 items you've 2 speels, 1 cwdt, and 1 additonal support .. Is this something you just switch out?
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WETDREAMS wrote:
So, Rathis .. Cast when damage taken only triggers 1 spell when activated, yet on 2 items you've 2 speels, 1 cwdt, and 1 additonal support .. Is this something you just switch out?


CoDT triggers all spells linked to it, along with any additional support gems. So for instance, CoDT lvl 1 + Molten Shell + Enduring cry + Lifeleech simultaneously pops both MS and cry when you take 440 damage, and you also get the leech from MS explosion.
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WETDREAMS wrote:
So, Rathik .. Cast when damage taken only triggers 1 spell when activated, yet on 2 items you've 2 speels, 1 cwdt, and 1 additonal support .. Is this something you just switch out?


That is false.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Nov 9, 2013, 8:21:16 AM
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Amendantium wrote:
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Rathik2 wrote:
You need the faster casting gem because the EK base cast speed is very slow and the animation takes to long. There isn't much else you can add in your links anyway.

The faster you cast, the more mana you burn in order to get the same DPS.
If you can't spam EK then is not a DPS gain is it?
My 6L EK costs 109 mana per attack and I cast ever 0.56 seconds. That means I need about 200 mana regen in order to spam it. If I add more cast speed it means I need to add more mana regen as well in order to keep up, to up my DPS. But if I add spell power/crit chance/crit multiplier I am upping my DPS with the need of more mana regen.
Its just common sense.

And Scion is not ideal for this build because she wastes to many points on +10 INT nodes traveling across the skill tree to get to the needed nodes.


You can try this but it will have less life and less DPS compare to the witch.
You will need to get more skill points in order to be on par with the witch.

Scion (103/120)


Witch (my current skill tree 103/120)



Why do we need Elemental Dominion if EK does Phy Dmg?
I see Scion takes 4 INT nodes to reach the Witch tree after Harrier. Is that much?


Hint:
Look at your EK tooltip.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
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Rathik2 wrote:


First of all my witch is level 86 and decently itemized. You are still missing a lot of DPS nodes and aura enhanced nodes that add to the DPS from hatred.

DPS will come mostly from weapon, then shield, then amulet, in that order.
If you are playing on nemesis focus on survival first.

I can't decide for you what to upgrade. Just look at my gear and try to match it or surpassed it.


im sure that having most of the(dps) gems at lvl 20 and 20% quality also helps a "tiny" bit :P

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