[1.2] Rathik's EK build +40k DPS/52.3%Crit/+375% Multiplier. Anti-Reflect. "The Immortal Shuriken"

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fire99966 wrote:

Hmmm I have 3 free linked gem slots. I should try cast on crit>EK>EK.

Any ideas for these spots?


I guess something that'll increase my dps.

I think you should read the description on cast on crit again.

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Rathik2 wrote:

I think you should read the description on cast on crit again.

Omg ggg hating on spells.


I should just cast on damage taken>ice nova>ice nova. Since this build has high crit rate I can crit with ice nova and freeze them.

At one point I wanted to work with freeze mines cause they freeze enemies and make them 15% more vulnerable to cold damage.

Forget it, Im going to just have some fun and lightning warp>reduced duration>faster casting

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fire99966 wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

I think you should read the description on cast on crit again.

Omg ggg hating on spells.


I should just cast on damage taken>ice nova>ice nova. Since this build has high crit rate I can crit with ice nova and freeze them.

At one point I wanted to work with freeze mines cause they freeze enemies and make them 15% more vulnerable to cold damage.

Actually is a technical issue.

The rule is you can't manually cast linked gems with cast on crit, because after all is to cast it on a critical.
How will the game know which one is the master spell and the secondary spell since they are both spells?
What they should do is let the gem be used like cast on damage taken with a drawback or a benefit.

Cast on damage is 100% chance to activate on damage but you have to take a certain amount of damage and the spell will be weaker.

Cast on crit (and some others) should be used the same way. Just give them a positive and a negative feature. As it is now you can't really use that gem efficiently even with a 5L or a 6L.

I*m curious .. Been in global chat trying to get an answer to this, but:

Let's say you've got 70% increased critical damage for spell on your shield, and then 90% on your wand .. Are those local variables, or do they stack?

Also,. does AOE spells, such as molten shell get any damage benefit from spell damage critical %?

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WETDREAMS wrote:

I*m curious .. Been in global chat trying to get an answer to this, but:

Let's say you've got 70% increased critical damage for spell on your shield, and then 90% on your wand .. Are those local variables, or do they stack?

Also,. does AOE spells, such as molten shell get any damage benefit from spell damage critical %?

Yes, they do stack.

Each spell or weapon in the game has a base crit chance. Unarmed does not have any crit chance what so ever, but a secondary effect of the attack you are using, might have, for example Infernal blow (7% critical chance). The 7% crit refers to the explosion you get when you kill a monster with Infernal Blow.

Critical strike chance suffix on a weapon will add to the weapons base critical strike chance. The affix should say "spells" or "global" to affect spells.
Crit from amulet is global and and the white critical rings are global also. some uniques have crit modifiers as well.
You should read the text of the affix carefully.

E.G critical strike multiplier is global but the Abyssus unique helm says "increased Critical Strike Multiplier with Melee Weapons". So you need a melee weapon to get the effect, wands/bows will not work with it even if the attack you are using, e.g frenzy can be used with a wand/bow.

Same goes for the skill tree. Read the description carefully, don't just glance at it and you will not have any problems figuring what works and what doesn't.

Read more here
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Critical_Strike

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Rathik2 wrote:

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cynischism wrote:

Scion version of the build

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAnEEswhnDH0OSBB_EZYWbxa_Fy8YPBmFGjgabBzcHRQdqiSqKPopTy2oL28xnjWSNuk62EZxSshN2E3jUEJVxlXWWlJd8mHiY0Nk52ZPbqpwUnC7cNV_xoCkgUmBb4IegseDCYV9h9uIQojxjDaMdo5kj0aQVZMnkzqbXZ2jnjyiAKIuplenCKeEqJqsWbGQsji0DLXytvq31riTvSfAUcHFxp7PZdDQ2RPbC9tZ4YjjauOE5CLr7uw48B_yHfKX8-r3pvno-tL8q_6P

It can be done with a scion but had less health and dps.

I wouldn't recommended. High cast speed means you burn mana faster and lower per hit damage.

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I got 3 more scions builds that I am working on. They look godly on paper. Even stronger than this one.

I ll make a guide on scion forums soon enough.

1. I don't understand that part; if more Cast speed isn't good for EK, why you run Faster Casting gem, for example?

2. Can you give us a hint on how a Scion EK build tree can be? I am very interested on a Scion EK and wish to know more or less how to route the path. Can't we just took Harrier and then go up and resume the original Witch tree? Including Shaper and Path of the Warrior? (tooking the 4 life nodes and the 2 STR nodes between Shaper and PotW).

Sorry for my questions as I'm pretty newbie and really thank you for take your time to answer our questions and your excellent guide.

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Amendantium wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

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cynischism wrote:

Scion version of the build

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAnEEswhnDH0OSBB_EZYWbxa_Fy8YPBmFGjgabBzcHRQdqiSqKPopTy2oL28xnjWSNuk62EZxSshN2E3jUEJVxlXWWlJd8mHiY0Nk52ZPbqpwUnC7cNV_xoCkgUmBb4IegseDCYV9h9uIQojxjDaMdo5kj0aQVZMnkzqbXZ2jnjyiAKIuplenCKeEqJqsWbGQsji0DLXytvq31riTvSfAUcHFxp7PZdDQ2RPbC9tZ4YjjauOE5CLr7uw48B_yHfKX8-r3pvno-tL8q_6P

It can be done with a scion but had less health and dps.

I wouldn't recommended. High cast speed means you burn mana faster and lower per hit damage.

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I got 3 more scions builds that I am working on. They look godly on paper. Even stronger than this one.

I ll make a guide on scion forums soon enough.

1. I don't understand that part; if more Cast speed isn't good for EK, why you run Faster Casting gem, for example?

2. Can you give us a hint on how a Scion EK build tree can be? I am very interested on a Scion EK and wish to know more or less how to route the path. Can't we just took Harrier and then go up and resume the original Witch tree? Including Shaper and Path of the Warrior? (tooking the 4 life nodes and the 2 STR nodes between Shaper and PotW).

Sorry for my questions as I'm pretty newbie and really thank you for take your time to answer our questions and your excellent guide.

You need the faster casting gem because the EK base cast speed is very slow and the animation takes to long. There isn't much else you can add in your links anyway.

The faster you cast, the more mana you burn in order to get the same DPS.
If you can't spam EK then is not a DPS gain is it?
My 6L EK costs 109 mana per attack and I cast ever 0.56 seconds. That means I need about 200 mana regen in order to spam it. If I add more cast speed it means I need to add more mana regen as well in order to keep up, to up my DPS. But if I add spell power/crit chance/crit multiplier I am upping my DPS with the need of more mana regen.
Its just common sense.

And Scion is not ideal for this build because she wastes to many points on +10 INT nodes traveling across the skill tree to get to the needed nodes.


You can try this but it will have less life and less DPS compare to the witch.
You will need to get more skill points in order to be on par with the witch.

Scion (103/120)


Witch (my current skill tree 103/120)

I'm pretty sure this will be a bad question since im pretty new but why do u have both enfeeble and critical weakness? doesnt the one overlap the other?

got this armor today is this one usefull and maby worth trying to 5-6 socket it?



seems to be a very nice armor



so got this shame on the 6% roll but maby its worth to reroll it

what do you think?