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Amiag wrote:

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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:

but what do you think people do at the start of new leagues?

they rush to the mapping so they can sell overpriced stuff asap ...

And what exactly is stopping you from doing that . . . ?

Qarl hit the nail on the head here. There may be some minor issues with playing effectively self found. This thread on the other hand is just a bunch of people complaining that they aren't being showered with exalts and shavs during the couple of hours a week that they play. Sure there are a bunch of long posts trying to pretend like there's a different motivation but that's all it really boils down to. People complaining that they don't have all the money and gear that the top players have even though they only put in a tiny fraction of the time. Everyone wants to be the best without putting in any of the effort that it actually takes to be the best.

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Qarl wrote:

And if I look at the stats, if you want to die, wear a Shavronne's.

Emphasis.

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Qarl wrote:

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Thank you, Qarl. Whether there was going to be a SFL or not was literally the only thing holding me to Path of Exile. I can now uninstall in peace.

It's been fun, you guys. :,)

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Warmey wrote:

Wow, I didn't understand anything here. I really do not see the problem here. Why do people want a self found league. What difference does it make if you play self found in a normal league or a real self found league.

Nobody is forcing nobody on anything. Nobody told me that I need a shavronne to hang with them, I could roll around with rags, nobody cares.

People have some weird expectations. These threads pop up from time to time, but I never saw a great argument for it. There's no point.

I guess people want to play the game
without feeling forced to trade but progress fluently nonetheless.

Even Qarl mentioned that Self-Found players are hindered in that manner.
However against expectations not in high/end-game but the mid-to-high level area.

I play strictly Self-found/HC. I would quit if they made your league, so I guess we cancel out. Here to stay in HC.

Of course we're hindered. We like it that way. If I wanted someone else to play the game for me, I'd hire some kid to come play it for me while I went out bike riding. I play solo because I know I would like the game less if someone did it for me. I'd also like it less if the developers caved in and gave solo players all the candy they cried for.

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tpapp157 wrote:

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Amiag wrote:

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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:

but what do you think people do at the start of new leagues?

they rush to the mapping so they can sell overpriced stuff asap ...

And what exactly is stopping you from doing that . . . ?

are you really suggesting that the solution to play self found is SELLING stuff ? cause i think we have some comprehension problems here

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Nightmare90 wrote:

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Warmey wrote:

Wow, I didn't understand anything here. I really do not see the problem here. Why do people want a self found league. What difference does it make if you play self found in a normal league or a real self found league.

Nobody is forcing nobody on anything. Nobody told me that I need a shavronne to hang with them, I could roll around with rags, nobody cares.

People have some weird expectations. These threads pop up from time to time, but I never saw a great argument for it. There's no point.

I guess people want to play the game without feeling forced to trade but progress fluently nonetheless.

Even Qarl mentioned that Self-Found players are hindered in that manner.
However against expectations not in high/end-game but the mid-to-high level area.

But that's it, nobody is forcing nobody to progress. If you were in a self found league and you can't progress because the drops don't cooperate what is the difference between being in a normal league or a self found. At least in a normal league you can do something about it and trade. In a self found, if you don't find what you need well that's too bad for you...

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Warmey wrote:

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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H4T3MONG3R wrote:

That's a whole lot of post and all of it ignores the fact that you can play selffound on any league you want....

Ya think?
Pretty sure the OP is suggesting a self found league, where drops aren't influenced by the economy.

I'd love it. I's my #1 problem with PoE as it is atm. Hours of trash. Nothing but trash for hours and hours. Ohh, a unique dropped, guess what, you guess it , it's trash.
I do not like being penalized by the existence of a trading economy.

Why are penalized. You can play how you want? What exactly is your goal? If you don't want to or don't have the means to trade don't.

In a self found league you wouldn't be able to trade and other neither, so what gives.

No trading would be compensated for by better drops.
Put it this way. You really think you could EVER reach 50k dps ( arbitrary number used as a example) without trading? I say no, you couldn't. The reason is the economy. Anything decent is EXTREMELY rare because it's floating out there in the economy. SO yes, you're penalized as a player in your drops by the existence if a economy.

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Amiag wrote:

four links and player expectations are the problem, seriously ?

You just negate what I said without anything to back it up, or explain why, seriously?

I am very happy to hear where I have it wrong, but your comment is essentially meaningless.