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" DamageIncorporated wrote: " Warmey wrote: LOL, SFL pps want a league where there's no trading and the loot table improved. Player runs Lunaris 3. Find Shavronne's wrappings. OOooohhh, this is cray!!!...I'm rich...oh wait..never mind. Same player 10 minutes later runs Lunaris 3. Find another Shavronne's wrappings.. Oh..cool, another one. Ok boooring. GGG, please no SFL, I'll upgrade my pack again lol Put the pipe down. lol	Posted by Warmey#4835 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:24:56 PM Quote this Post
" DamageIncorporated wrote: " tpapp157 wrote: TQ much like Torchlight is an ok that can provide 20 or so hours of fun at most. That's precisely because the game is designed to bombard you with rewards and within about two playthroughs you've done everything there is to do in the game. That would be you're opinion, to put it mildly. Titan Quest is a widely regarded and respected ARPG. Didn't say that it wasn't a good game. But I don't know anyone who's played TQ in ages. I was done with Torchlight within a week. On the other hand, I've been playing Path of Exile for almost three years now . . . Forum Sheriff	Posted by tpapp157#0336 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:25:35 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Cronk wrote: " MrMisterMissedHer wrote: You already have the choice not to trade. I did try to knock myself out on that 90 page thread earlier today, it was pointless. Noone suggested anything that doesn't detract from the existing leagues. What exactly is your argument? Google it? Dude, if you refuse to understand what people are saying what's the point explaining. This thread contains the explanation 10 times over. And you want me to say it again? Ok here you go: Drop rates are based on the economy - in a self found league the drop rates would not be based on an economy. Ok, have you read it this time? But as I've already pointed out, that is a fallacy, if I currently play the game self-found, without trading, with the current drop rates. What is the novelty or difference of that SFL to me? Nothing but increased drop rates and an easier game.	Posted by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013, 9:25:53 PM
" tpapp157 wrote: So you want to play Path of Exile just as long as it's not actually playing Path of Exile . . . That's what I'm gathering from your comments. You dislike a lot of the features that are core to the Path of Exile experience. Just because you have a niche non-standard playstyle doesn't mean everyone has to cater to you. Maybe go back to playing D2 with your imaginary /players friends if that's really what you want. Is this the 'Please fuck off because I'm now out of arguments' autocratic bullshit finale? Am I supposed to feel honoured or threatened by this desperate approach?	Posted by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013, 9:26:04 PM
" Cronk wrote: Is this the 'Please fuck off because I'm now out of arguments' autocratic bullshit finale? Am I supposed to feel honoured or threatened by this desperate approach? Just pointing out the fact that you want this game to be something it's not just because you don't like to play the way it's designed to be played. What's next, You're going to go threaten to stop playing CoD because you don't want to shoot people? Forum Sheriff Last edited by tpapp157#0336 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:28:06 PM	Posted by tpapp157#0336 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:27:27 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" tpapp157 wrote: " Cronk wrote: Is this the 'Please fuck off because I'm now out of arguments' autocratic bullshit finale? Am I supposed to feel honoured or threatened by this desperate approach? Just pointing out the fact that you want this game to be something it's not just because you don't like to play the way it's designed to be played. What's next, You're going to go threaten to stop playing CoD because you don't want to shoot people? Don't worry, I spoke with Chris on the phone. He said, no SFL as long as he's boss of GGG. You want to find that 1337 item, only 2 ways: - Trading - or running Maps 20,000 times. each of those is good.	Posted by Warmey#4835 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:30:01 PM Quote this Post
" MrMisterMissedHer wrote: But as I've already pointed out, that is a fallacy, if I currently play the game self-found, without trading, with the current drop rates. What is the novelty or difference of that SFL to me? Nothing but increased drop rates and an easier game. You haven't pointed anything out, you've done something once which we're all supposed to believe without evidence. Whoop de doo. Easier game relative to what? Easier than a team of 6 dual speakers? Easier than spending 60 hours to get an exalt? (which would be used and have no trading value in self found - just to imagine what the word 'exalt' sounds like with zero value) Why do you assume it will be somehow 'easier' just because the drops are better? Why don't you assume it will be more 'enjoyable'?	Posted by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013, 9:30:45 PM
" Warmey wrote: " tpapp157 wrote: " Cronk wrote: Is this the 'Please fuck off because I'm now out of arguments' autocratic bullshit finale? Am I supposed to feel honoured or threatened by this desperate approach? Just pointing out the fact that you want this game to be something it's not just because you don't like to play the way it's designed to be played. What's next, You're going to go threaten to stop playing CoD because you don't want to shoot people? Don't worry, I spoke with Chris on the phone. He said, no SFL as long as he's boss of GGG. You want to find that 1337 item, only 2 ways: - Trading - or running Maps 20,000 times. each of those is good. I reject your reality and superimpose my own: You want to find that 1337 item, only 2 ways: - Real money - Lots of subscribers who give you free stuff each of those is good.	Posted by silvershadows#0884 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:33:27 PM Quote this Post
" Cronk wrote: Easier than spending 60 hours to get an exalt? (which would be used and have no trading value in self found - just to imagine what the word 'exalt' sounds like with zero value) Why do you assume it will be somehow 'easier' just because the drops are better? Why don't you assume it will be more 'enjoyable'? Now you're just contradicting yourself because you have no basis for your arguments. You yourself said that the game was too difficult and players hit a difficulty wall playing self found. And now you're saying that it wouldn't make the game easier? But you just said yourself that was the whole point. Forum Sheriff	Posted by tpapp157#0336 on Aug 27, 2013, 9:33:28 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Cronk wrote: " MrMisterMissedHer wrote: But as I've already pointed out, that is a fallacy, if I currently play the game self-found, without trading, with the current drop rates. What is the novelty or difference of that SFL to me? Nothing but increased drop rates and an easier game. You haven't pointed anything out, you've done something once which we're all supposed to believe without evidence. Whoop de doo. Easier game relative to what? Easier than a team of 6 dual speakers? Easier than spending 60 hours to get an exalt? (which would be used and have no trading value in self found - just to imagine what the word 'exalt' sounds like with zero value) Why do you assume it will be somehow 'easier' just because the drops are better? Why don't you assume it will be more 'enjoyable'? I already established the baseline, which you managed to ignore, twice. Self-found, current drop rates. Higher drop rates makes the game easier, you wouldn't be arguing for it to get on level terms with traders if it wasn't the case. I didn't say it wouldn't be more enjoyable, that's entirely subjective. As for the evidence, I can't really prove that, now can I? It's not like the races where I finished in the top 20 keeps track of me being solo, and I don't care.	Posted by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013, 9:34:06 PM