[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

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Croven wrote:

so now its impossible to run 4-5 auras in same time?

It wasnt even possible before patch for this build. Build used to run 3 auras, now you can run 2.

You loose 18% attack speed for zombies from haste. Thats it.

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czochraBudyn wrote:

Im lev 75 with rather crappy gear (only 5L gear, 4k ES with descipline, max resists).
I have 17Lev (non-q) Reduced Mana and took all reduction nodes around. Im able to run only two auras.
In my opinion changes just killed this build (maybe not if you have better gear than me ). Progressing on new areas are veeery slow and my zombies (20q17l) were dying like cannon fodder.

I wish i was more patient and wait for some feedback. Now i ended up with useless build :(

2 auras is all you need. You dont need 3 auras.


Discipline + purity/haste/hatred.

Absolutely true. I first tried without respeccing at all. Just dropped haste and ran with just disc/purity, no difference really with pre-patch. Then I respecced anyway to just about Rathik's new tree (added 2 dex / 1 str nodes for gear) as I had a few loose ends anyway. To be honest, if anything it feels better than pre-patch. Zombies have no trouble killing, and I am less squishy than before (almost 5200 ES now). No reason for panic, and I have no top-gear as I'm self-found.

In fact running just 2 aura's opens up some room for experimenting as the aura's can be moved to a 3-socket item. Which could for instance make the skeletons do more dps or some IIQ/IIR maybe, which can come in handy in some encounters.

Or for map groups where I tend to be the curser it might be feasible to put in Curse on Hit + Enfeeble on the spectres in stead of minion speed/resist. Not sure if that would work, but it would be much less harsh on mana if you have to spam just one curse + res zombies, especially in some map mods (Temp Chains / No regen). Anyway: options :-)

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domie wrote:

In fact running just 2 aura's opens up some room for experimenting as the aura's can be moved to a 3-socket item. Which could for instance make the skeletons do more dps or some IIQ/IIR maybe, which can come in handy in some encounters.

Or for map groups where I tend to be the curser it might be feasible to put in Curse on Hit + Enfeeble on the spectres in stead of minion speed/resist. Not sure if that would work, but it would be much less harsh on mana if you have to spam just one curse + res zombies, especially in some map mods (Temp Chains / No regen). Anyway: options :-)

Yes, you can put auras on 3L but if you weapon switch they will be removed.

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Rathik2 wrote:

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Croven wrote:

so now its impossible to run 4-5 auras in same time?

It wasnt even possible before patch for this build. Build used to run 3 auras, now you can run 2.

I ran 6 Auras with my summoner Witch just fine before the Patch, including 2x 40% Auras and I had nearly 400 Mana left, no problem. I also know a summoner that was able to run 7 Auras including 3x 40% Auras but of course these times are gone now.

Well, so or so I need a new build for my Life based EB Summoner witch. My old one used some aura buff passives for boosting my minions but I guess I could try the new build from here, looks interesting but still pretty different from my old one. I used Arc for shock stacks, I will keep this at least. Rest not sure except life based build (gear+bandit rewards were choosen around this), so many changes in skills and mechanics. ^^"

P.S.: is Multistrike mandatory? It's hard to find when you only play selffound and do not trade ^^"

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Rathik2 wrote:

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hoangvoducduy wrote:

so sad with new patch, my zombie is too weak in new map.... Sometime they cant touch mobs, they can only deal dmg when...died !

I find that very hard to believe. The patch didn't nerf zombies one bit. The only thing the build lost is 1 aura, nothing else. Everything else is a buff.

If your zombies are weak it means you don't have a level 20 zombie gem yet.

A level 19 zombie gem vs a level 20 its worlds apart.

Same story here! I basicly spent last night just spamming raise zombie. How can raise zombie lvl17 not be enough to clear merciless? It's ridiculous really.
Maybe 20/20 zombie is fine, but then something has to be done so you can actually level gems at a SOMEwhat decent rate.
Afraid I'll ragequit before even making it to zombie lvl18 :(

Edit: FYI, I run with Purity (+40 all resist) and haste. Got Multistrike and Minion Life linked to teh zombeh.

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Crapgeezer wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

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hoangvoducduy wrote:

so sad with new patch, my zombie is too weak in new map.... Sometime they cant touch mobs, they can only deal dmg when...died !

I find that very hard to believe. The patch didn't nerf zombies one bit. The only thing the build lost is 1 aura, nothing else. Everything else is a buff.

If your zombies are weak it means you don't have a level 20 zombie gem yet.

A level 19 zombie gem vs a level 20 its worlds apart.

Same story here! I basicly spent last night just spamming raise zombie. How can raise zombie lvl17 not be enough to clear merciless? It's ridiculous really.
Maybe 20/20 zombie is fine, but then something has to be done so you can actually level gems at a SOMEwhat decent rate.
Afraid I'll ragequit before even making it to zombie lvl18 :(

Edit: FYI, I run with Purity (+40 all resist) and haste. Got Multistrike and Minion Life linked to teh zombeh.

Sorry guys, cant help on that. The fact is that a level 20 raise zombies is A LOT more stronger than a level 19. Game mechanics, what can you do...


You should use temp chains + enfeeble.

Hi, Is it possible if you can update the ORIGINAL post to keep up with patch 1.0.0? I'm having a bit of problem digging through all the posts to find out what's outdated and what's new...

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casmeng wrote:

Hi, Is it possible if you can update the ORIGINAL post to keep up with patch 1.0.0? I'm having a bit of problem digging through all the posts to find out what's outdated and what's new...

I did.

Basically you ll have to drop 1 aura.