Tyr's **0.11.1** Pure Elemental Bow Spec

Just a quick question.

I have a chain, but have yet to use it, I cannot fit it into my gear in a way to be able to support it, even with a leveled up mana leech I do not regen quick enough with my shortened mana pool to support either LA or IS with it. I also cannot afford to use discipline or clarity with Anger + Hatred + Wrath.

Not sure outside of getting +Mana on gear of a way to rectify this, not many nodes within reach.

have a question, I bought my death harps bow and its/itemlevel is 47 and I cant get it to roll more than 4 sockets after burning 20 jewelers. In your video I see your bow with 5L did I just buy a too low item level death harp that cant roll more than 4 sockets?

Also, why is chain so sought after? How is it so much better than multiple projectiles or fork?

^ I think it's because when Chain is leveled and it's damage penalty is minimized it's a quite good support. If you land the first hit then subsequent chained hits will hit as well 100% of the time. Also afaik chained projectile can bounce between 2 enemies so it can hit same target twice
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A couple of questions:
*I'm in cruel now and evasion seems to be useless. Should I just switch to eva/armor or pure armor?
*Should I use a pure physical bow or high elemental damage is better?

Also Ive been using this build with death harps ow but I ust found a bow that dos way more damage. Can this build work with a regular bow still using chain?

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slimweebs wrote:

Also, why is chain so sought after? How is it so much better than multiple projectiles or fork?

Before getting Death's Harp I preferred LMP but with 2 arrows you get a free chain shot which is soo awesome, I don't know about other builds thou.

Hey people! I would like to hear some discussion about the diffrences between Tyr's shadow Pure elemental bow spec and Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger Build. Is anyone else thinking wich one is better for bow user. Im perfectionist when it comes to making character in games. I like to play glasscannon specs in every game, i just cant find wich one of these builds would be better DamageDealer ! :D

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jdonk wrote:

Just a quick question.

I have a chain, but have yet to use it, I cannot fit it into my gear in a way to be able to support it, even with a leveled up mana leech I do not regen quick enough with my shortened mana pool to support either LA or IS with it. I also cannot afford to use discipline or clarity with Anger + Hatred + Wrath.

Not sure outside of getting +Mana on gear of a way to rectify this, not many nodes within reach.

I wouldn't bother using Anger. You'd need to level it up pretty high to get a lot of DPS from it, that also increases the reserved mana. I just got up to 30+ mana regen and with lvl 16 Wrath/Hatred, it's already pretty tough to maintain constant spamming.
Also, looking at Tyr's passives, he doesn't pick up any specific fire damage nodes. No one's saying you can't try it out, you should get enough respecs/regrets to refund those nodes if it doesn't work out but since we're picking up ice/lightning nodes, those will naturally scale higher.

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TheKola wrote:

have a question, I bought my death harps bow and its/itemlevel is 47 and I cant get it to roll more than 4 sockets after burning 20 jewelers. In your video I see your bow with 5L did I just buy a too low item level death harp that cant roll more than 4 sockets?

An iLvl 47 bow can have 5 slots. My bow is only iLvl 43 and I managed to get 5-slots on it after about 50 jewelers. It takes an iLvl 50+ to get 6-slots.

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WhisperByte wrote:

^ I think it's because when Chain is leveled and it's damage penalty is minimized it's a quite good support. If you land the first hit then subsequent chained hits will hit as well 100% of the time. Also afaik chained projectile can bounce between 2 enemies so it can hit same target twice
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A couple of questions:
*I'm in cruel now and evasion seems to be useless. Should I just switch to eva/armor or pure armor?
*Should I use a pure physical bow or high elemental damage is better?

This build doesn't depend on physical damage at all. All of your damage is coming from elemental damage and passive amplification in the skill tree. Even if you got Blackgleam and Hrimsorrow, your damage will still scale higher with elemental damage.
Not too sure about about equips, I use whatever I need. I only have ES Gloves, everything else is Armor/Eva to support my links.

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sol_kn wrote:

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slimweebs wrote:

Also, why is chain so sought after? How is it so much better than multiple projectiles or fork?

Before getting Death's Harp I preferred LMP but with 2 arrows you get a free chain shot which is soo awesome, I don't know about other builds thou.

^This.
You're working off of exploited mechanics here. Ice Shot does initial damage, has a chill/freeze effect, and affects everything behind the target with an AoE cone. With Chain, you're doing that to 3 targets and potentially a few more with the AoE cone. With Death's Harp and Chain, you're doing that to 6 targets and potentially a few more with the AoE cone.
Also, Chain can bounce between 2 targets. If you have target's A and B and fire a Chained Ice Shot at A, you'll hit A, chain to B, then chain back to A.
I've noticed that you can also chain to unactivated golems in Act 2 also. Cool shit.

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jdonk wrote:

Just a quick question.

I have a chain, but have yet to use it, I cannot fit it into my gear in a way to be able to support it, even with a leveled up mana leech I do not regen quick enough with my shortened mana pool to support either LA or IS with it. I also cannot afford to use discipline or clarity with Anger + Hatred + Wrath.

Not sure outside of getting +Mana on gear of a way to rectify this, not many nodes within reach.

Turn off hatred and anger if you need to (in that order). Use a level 5 clarity with wrath. Your mana issues should be minimized after that - enough for you to run Chain. As your gear gets better and after you reach the mana regen passive, you should be able to support more auras. Also linking your auras with reduced mana helps a ton.

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casval776 wrote:

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jdonk wrote:

Just a quick question.

I have a chain, but have yet to use it, I cannot fit it into my gear in a way to be able to support it, even with a leveled up mana leech I do not regen quick enough with my shortened mana pool to support either LA or IS with it. I also cannot afford to use discipline or clarity with Anger + Hatred + Wrath.

Not sure outside of getting +Mana on gear of a way to rectify this, not many nodes within reach.

I wouldn't bother using Anger. You'd need to level it up pretty high to get a lot of DPS from it, that also increases the reserved mana. I just got up to 30+ mana regen and with lvl 16 Wrath/Hatred, it's already pretty tough to maintain constant spamming.
Also, looking at Tyr's passives, he doesn't pick up any specific fire damage nodes. No one's saying you can't try it out, you should get enough respecs/regrets to refund those nodes if it doesn't work out but since we're picking up ice/lightning nodes, those will naturally scale higher.

Anger is good.. Hatred is the bad aura for this build. Hatred scales off physical damage, of which we have a pitiful amount. Wrath > Anger > Hatred for sure, even though we have no fire passive.




For the others asking why deaths harp and chain make this build, and why use ice shot on the chain link, its primarily because of the secondary cone effect of ice shot. DH + Chain = 6 ARROWS, but cones have a high chance to overlap resulting in up to 6x the damage to some of the mobs in the pack if 6 cones overlap. On very tight packs the damage is disgustingly obvious. On more spread out packs its still good because of the increased aoe radius passives we pick up. The cones cover a pretty big area!