Tyr's **0.11.1** Pure Elemental Bow Spec

Is this viable for hardcore?

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jcnewc wrote:

Let me start off by saying I absolutely love this build, my last character in CB used this and I liked it so much, I made a another in OB! I haven't really had access to chain or the uniques, like most people, so I've been using Ice shot+LMP+Pierce+wep ele, tied in with projectile weakness for super piercing arrows. This has created quite the mana issue for me (~36 mana per shot), and as a result I have picked up the Witch's mana regen nodes, and a couple on the side as well. I plan on dropping the regen nodes eventually, but in the meantime this seems to be a pretty great solution if you are having mana issues like me (if spending 10 passive refund points later is cool with you).

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That is what my build looks like at level 49, I have around 55 mp5 and am running clarity + wrath... any more auras is too much reserved mana it seems.

Hehe I hate to say it, but if you were to refund all those mana passives now, you could link the build in a circle. Then refund 6 more passives.

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Tyranthal wrote:

I'll get right to it.

This is a high dps min-max build designed for diabolically efficient farming. It in no way is intended for HC. If you like playing rogues & top dps classes where you sacrifice defense for more offense, this method is for you.

1st paragraph :P

Sup, relatively new player here.
I've been following this thread and decided to give it a try. Got a lvl 40 Shadow right now and it's pretty boss. There are a few things that aren't quite making sense to me, though.

1) First off, do you use any support auras? I've been using Wrath/Hatred and the sheer manacost cuts down my spamming by a metric fuckton. I can't even handle using Clarity or Haste.

2) In your passive build, I know you make a full circle around Soul Siphon and refund 6 points later. Do you use those points for Heart of Ice and Storm Cast after you refund them?

3) The last problem is the sheer reliability on Chain. Exactly how "necessary" is that after the nerf? I've been playing around with Fork and LMP but neither of those really get the job done, even with Light Arrow. Are you relying on Death Harp's passive or Chain? Really screwing with me on that one.

Aside from those few problems, I've really been enjoying this build. It's a lot more fun than summoner Witch. Now if only I could get some ES armor with the right links...

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casval776 wrote:

Sup, relatively new player here.
I've been following this thread and decided to give it a try. Got a lvl 40 Shadow right now and it's pretty boss. There are a few things that aren't quite making sense to me, though.

1) First off, do you use any support auras? I've been using Wrath/Hatred and the sheer manacost cuts down my spamming by a metric fuckton. I can't even handle using Clarity or Haste.

2) In your passive build, I know you make a full circle around Soul Siphon and refund 6 points later. Do you use those points for Heart of Ice and Storm Cast after you refund them?

3) The last problem is the sheer reliability on Chain. Exactly how "necessary" is that after the nerf? I've been playing around with Fork and LMP but neither of those really get the job done, even with Light Arrow. Are you relying on Death Harp's passive or Chain? Really screwing with me on that one.

Aside from those few problems, I've really been enjoying this build. It's a lot more fun than summoner Witch. Now if only I could get some ES armor with the right links...

He is relying on the free multiple projectiles and chain paired together.

@OP Btw, I am going for a similar build, I use ice shot as the main attack and also use hrimsorrow for more conversion. I also adjusted the nodes to be cold dmg oriented. It all seems to be fine, but the problem I have is the single target... Should I just go for poison arrow? I really have no idea about this, but it seems like I always run out of mana when I try to take a high hp rare down. Should I use mana leech on the single target?

Could this EB variation work in default by getting lots of auras and mana thru energy shield thus maximizing dps with high level auras. Would I actually achieve more dps if I could play without energy shield?

Will Explosive Arrow still be better than Lightning Arrow at ~80+ ? Should we pick up Fire Walker?

ps: really hard to trade for chain/dh/wake :(

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teozxs wrote:

Will Explosive Arrow still be better than Lightning Arrow at ~80+ ? Should we pick up Fire Walker?

ps: really hard to trade for chain/dh/wake :(

This guy brings up an interesting point. Exactly what's with the complete lack of fire passives? I understand that with your build, you probably kill things before Ignite can tick even once. However, is it really that horrible?

Ignite isnt horrible. When you reach a point of overabundance of DPS from your gear, which will inevitably be awesome cause this is a farm spec, everything will die before it hits the ground. Let me share a secret.... Ice Shot was only linked to WED 20% and Chain 20% IIR and IIQ. Yep, in alllll the CB videos Ice Shot was effectively a 3 link. Why? Cause it was overfkingpowered. Imagine what Ice Shot/Lightning Arrow + WED + Culling Strike + Increased Crits + Faster Projectiles is like. !! No content could contain it. Nerfing it intentionally was what I did for farming purposes. But I always play like that in every game that gives me the option. Keep along this path & you will see for yourself.

I still dont have Chain in OB. I did pick up Fork & have been using Burning Arrow + Pierce + WED to good effect. I have been using Ice Shot with life gain on hit to excellent effect. Dont forget Rejuv totem! It makes your life much easier.

Deaths Harp is more important than Chain. I mentioned this IDK like 15 thousand views ago (last month) but this build was developed and thriving before Chain was even released in the game. It makes a solid build a wrecking ball.

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casval776 wrote:

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teozxs wrote:

Will Explosive Arrow still be better than Lightning Arrow at ~80+ ? Should we pick up Fire Walker?

ps: really hard to trade for chain/dh/wake :(

This guy brings up an interesting point. Exactly what's with the complete lack of fire passives? I understand that with your build, you probably kill things before Ignite can tick even once. However, is it really that horrible?

Avoiding singular elemental nodes is done on purpose with the exception of Ice & Lightning Walker. By all means, try out the burning dmg variation with burning arrow and EA. Ive done that before & enjoyed it. If you go into a singular element more than 2 or 3 nodes, make sure you have the core elemental passives in the templar tree as a backbone for your dmg.