[1.2.0] Dual Claws Are Cool

@Kirielis
Thanks for your answer !
That's what I figured out, even though it makes me run quite out of orbs. Blues loot often enough to get something nice anyway, guess I'll see later for the rare.
And anyway for Mind Drinker I guess every little helps ^^

I looked a bit at the trade channel, the prices for gems seem to be 1 chaos per gem. Considering chaos are rare at my level, is it worth trying to buy the gems I need or should I wait and hope to loot/earn them ?

@ Kirielis,

MAIN HAND damage only - damn, I'm blind as a bat. So my offhand claw was doing 0 damage with double strike -.- ... lovely.

Well atm I'm running at 18k dps with Dual Strike and I'll LF a very high APS Claw with 250+ dps... that's gonna be expensive.

So it's a Bloodseeker + Claw w/o Vaal Pact or 2 rare claws with Vaal Pact... I'll post a Vaal Pact build, although the fastest way to get to it is to get Golem's Blood :'(

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYA_5MeGjBUmVcoKrVIsbPtQeuOrs9te1VLJpWMNlBCoi4OSKc0YeJtbFM1m7UZivsJ9toajzZCqBoPq-d0Nj2lywzyBbWNvz1lkoBRR6q4qn-NfT7Pveb5Yxrb7g4j9u_wWkhMYASxlWYDhxutcHLTfiSdYlpW-vzF3Q1br04qtkE0k2Nw7-O-p1oabmmE2VjbU9-bg4TvdO1672BLZU1HfmEhEuGi6u9OKLUqOCmlZ6CHdkp9FfA6WAR-hxnEuNX4tMVAVW9XDI0NSQ==

So this would be the build... imo, Charisma and Primal Spirit are both extremely good. Also, 1 extra endurance charge if ur running with Enduring Cry (with or w/o Cast on Damage Taken) or from blocking dmg via BOR should help survival by a alot.

IR/Mana flows are optional ofc. I'd go for the 3 life nodes next to Mind Drinker OR Diamond Flesh if you need more All res OR Bravado next to VP for extra dps + 4% block chance...if you have a high level that is. Sadly, Acrobatics + Ondar's Guile are very point expensive :(.

The only problem the build doesn't address is STUNS :(... Heart of the Oak could help there by a margain, but the 1% life regen would be useless if u go VP.

@Ryat http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Rewards

@Angmaar Well, yeah, that's why Dual Strike or alternating weapons to attack. Congratulations, I suppose. The high APS/DPS claw thing is not strictly necessary, considering your claw is already pretty good at 1.5aps. Though yes I do love my 320dps 1.8aps, why do you ask? =p

Skill tree looks good, and stuns are less of an issue for you than for me since you have end charges and IR. And I never got stunned enough to matter anyway, as long as I dodged the rhoas.

Where VP is concerned, the skill tree at the time of crafting this build had VP way up in the centre. Also, the chaos res unique rings weren't out, and getting CR gets really fun if you're unlucky. Yeah, "fun". Though maybe I just like my panic button flasks a little too much.

I'll have to get to lvl 82 to get VP heh. Until then I'll get some exalts to get a 2nd claw... and yes, I'm jelous of you :P

Also, the build evolved as the game :D. Tbh I'm the most tanky guy when party-ing and I've been playing this game for 2 weeks. Love the build, cheers and congratz on it :D

@Kirielis Oh that's exactly the kind of link I needed ! Thanks a bunch again. That means I bought Hatred, and will loot the rest later ^^
However I'm surprised, my damage seems low enough for Wrath to actually deal more damage than Hatred. Since both my claws already deal ice damage, I'm just gonna wait until it ups and see what it gives.

Another question, I spotted a whole circle dedicated to claw that no one seemed to take, why that ? Is it just lack of points ?

Regarding Acrobatics: The 5 nodes after Acrobatics should ALWAYS be taken if you intend to take the first node, Dodge has accelerating returns similar to Resistances, and you want those returns.

40% dodge is +14% More eHP over 30% Dodge agains tattacks. And +30% Spell Dodge is +43% eHP over no spell dodge over spells.

The total dodge cluster is approximately +50% eHP over not having it, at the cost of 6 points. If you already have +200% HP (or what have you) that's another +150% HP in passives distilled into 6 nodes.

@Kirielis

Mate, could you give your thoughts about a similar build , but based on CI/ES for NEMESIS League? A.K.A - no gear, no currency, fresh start xD.

I wouldn't build the same thing again, but a CI/ES with Ghost Reaver and Raker nodes seems fun and... bad ass. But it might lack the dps and survivability :-s for merc since you need get ES Nodes and Ghost Reaver and run down to VP...
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYA_5MeGjBUmVcoKrVIsbPtQaZ_h9vrY5matvcRL4hrGdc2PaXLDPIFtbTFQFVvVwyNDUnC7EcGX2rjhA5IpzSNvxGWf8bBxSy_hq4V19eGVmPsGMNtoqPB820ZO-Hi96crKwrBANsaEHv1S7463vhRRz7Pveb5YzB8fyvWihrb7g5W-vzFtxc4lt0NW68Y23TxIWBAoJ65704otSo4

Any ideas?

Hi, I have a question for you again Kirielis about the path you choose near the end of the skill tree, near golem's blood and the all res node.

Changed skill tree:


As you can see this change uses one more node but gives you 28% physical and 3% attack speed. I was just curious if you knew about going this way and choose not to or if you had a reason to go the way you did also this brings the tree closer to IR for those who want to use it.

Same as last time I'm not trying to be a douchebag or anything by picking at the small things, I'm simply curious.

@Ryat

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However I'm surprised, my damage seems low enough for Wrath to actually deal more damage than Hatred. Since both my claws already deal ice damage, I'm just gonna wait until it ups and see what it gives.

You know, at low levels that's entirely likely. But Wrath is flat +dmg and Hatred will outscale it eventually since it's +%dmg.

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Another question, I spotted a whole circle dedicated to claw that no one seemed to take, why that ? Is it just lack of points ?

There are a few of those. The ones at the top are only worthwhile if you're making a crit claws build, the one below is just plain not worth it.

@Autocthon

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Regarding Acrobatics: The 5 nodes after Acrobatics should ALWAYS be taken if you intend to take the first node, Dodge has accelerating returns similar to Resistances, and you want those returns.

Your opinion is noted, and thank you. Let me state for the record that having that much dodge (or any dodge at all) is WAY OVERKILL considering the amount of leech in play here, and also let me state for the record that this thread is not an Acrobatics debate thread. Thank you.

@Angmaar

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Tbh I'm the most tanky guy when party-ing

Thanks, glad to hear you're enjoying it!

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Mate, could you give your thoughts about a similar build , but based on CI/ES for NEMESIS League? A.K.A - no gear, no currency, fresh start xD.

CI is rather more expensive to gear than HP, and you're likely to end up with less evasion overall. Among other things. That said, definitely possible and I suggest you check Xavyer's dual daggers guide.

For the build you posted, looks good, I'd fill it out by picking up the rest of the DW block chance nodes first and foremost.

@topler

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As you can see this change uses one more node but gives you 28% physical and 3% attack speed. I was just curious if you knew about going this way and choose not to or if you had a reason to go the way you did also this brings the tree closer to IR for those who want to use it.

Same as last time I'm not trying to be a douchebag or anything by picking at the small things, I'm simply curious.

No worries, always open to suggestions. Oooh, good call there. While I did (and do) have my reasons, not everyone is going to go for Blade Barrier and a high evasion non-IR build. I will add that tree as an alternative in the OP, thank you!

@Kirielis: The only reason I spoke up about dodge is that it's a viable option, to take the build in a dodgey direction. Changes the play pattern a bit, definietly more interesting than IR.