Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger Build(s) (0.10)

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Canoas wrote:

I'll try with chain + lmp for a while and see how it feels.


Btw, I think I'm experiencing another error. This is my DPS with each set of gems and no auras

LA + Weapon Ele Dmg = 917
LA + Weapon Ele Dmg + LMP (+24% increased dmg) = 698
LA + Weapon Ele Dmg + Chain (+22% increased dmg) = 495

What's happening? With LMP it should reduce dmg by 30% and increase it by 24%, so (917*0.7)*1.24 = 796

And with Chain it should reduce by 50% and increase it by 22%,
(917*0.5)*1.22 = 559

Why is the dmg much lower than that? The increased damage from the gem level is barely doing anything.

LMP and Chain have %increased damage and %LESS damage. The "less" is key here. It means that your damage is calculated like this:

((damage per shot)*1.24)*0.7 = total damage per shot

After that you can see how many attacks per second you make in order to calculate your dps.

Hey everyone,

I'm sitting at level 38 and currently am built similar to build 1. I am considering doing a hybrid of build 1 and 2.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAdEILg6tFHUVIBmOKaUqTSzpMgkyfjWSNug6Uj8nSn1OyFYEVvpYr2FSZ6BuqnRBeA2GYId2m42fy6JAqW6v67XyxKLK09N-3Q3fv-2D7g70-PzF

Do you feel as if this build would lose too much defense/health? Would you recommend just keeping with build 1 or respeccing to build 2? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Hi...

I'm in early game yet... lvl 50 Rager, doing the full dps elemental build...
Need some advices, some way to go... =D

I'm thinking my DPS is a little low,
What do you guys think? Is it really low for my lvl?
Where should I improve in my gear? I'm looking for good 4L gears but, is a little hard.
Am I doing well in the skill tree?


Infos:
Level: 50 Elemental Ranger
HP: 1330
Lightning Arrow: 375.1
Burning Shot: 508.3
DPS in Character's Tab: 282.3
Armor: 2526
Resists: F: 6%, C: 27%, L: 75%, CH: -11%

Thanks in advance!
I appreciate any help!

Here is my Skill Tree:


And my gear:

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

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Canoas wrote:

I'll try with chain + lmp for a while and see how it feels.


Btw, I think I'm experiencing another error. This is my DPS with each set of gems and no auras

LA + Weapon Ele Dmg = 917
LA + Weapon Ele Dmg + LMP (+24% increased dmg) = 698
LA + Weapon Ele Dmg + Chain (+22% increased dmg) = 495

What's happening? With LMP it should reduce dmg by 30% and increase it by 24%, so (917*0.7)*1.24 = 796

And with Chain it should reduce by 50% and increase it by 22%,
(917*0.5)*1.22 = 559

Why is the dmg much lower than that? The increased damage from the gem level is barely doing anything.

LMP and Chain have %increased damage and %LESS damage. The "less" is key here. It means that your damage is calculated like this:

((damage per shot)*1.24)*0.7 = total damage per shot

After that you can see how many attacks per second you make in order to calculate your dps.

That's not how multiplication works.

Dmg Per Shot * Attack Speed * Increase Dmg * Less Dmg can be swapped however you want and it'll be the exact same result.

It's called the associative property of multiplication. Ex:
(2 * 3) * 4 = 2 * (3 * 4)

that formula is misleading. We have to throw in other source of damage increase factor then you will get the real picture

i believe it is (917 + 917*0.24 + elemental % + etc..) * 0.7

doesn't the increase in damage affect all damage like the decrease does?

I found this post explaining it

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Baki wrote:

more/less=multiplicative
increased/decreased=additive

So lets say you have
-100% increased damage from your support skill gem
-50% increased damage from your nodes
-50% decreased damage from your skill gem
-65% less damage from your skill gem
-55% less damage from a support skill gem
-50% more damage from another support skill gem


you will deal (100+100+50-50)*(1-0.65)*(1-0.55)*(1+0.5)=47.25% damage

Too bad.. we have a lot of increased damage which means the increased dmg from LMP and Chain doesn't make much difference

i have been following this thread from page 70 ish.

i am lvl 20. i am having mana problem, it drains way 2 fast. too fast that i can not level comfortably. how do you guys handle it at earlier level?

You don't really.

I used Burning Arrow at low levels (+loads of mana potions and mana leech) until I started using Blood Magic around level 40. Thing is, Burning Arrow is one of the cheaper ranger skills. Same with Elemental Hit as long as you don't level it up too much.

Before Blood Magic, it is nearly impossible to sustain expensive combinations of skills. So I used cheap support gems like Faster Attack, Knockback, Blind together with Burning Arrows to keep mana managable. The only 'expensive' support gem I used was Lesser Multiple Projectile.

Mana will remain a problem until you pick up Blood Magic. On the other hand, my advice is not to pick up Blood Magic before level 35 because you won't have enough life to sustain it properly. Until then.. mana potions and cheap skills are your friend..

Fixed a bug where Life on Hit was applied twice to non-blocked hits.

hmm hope LoH will still work as good as before O_o

Edit: also need advice this is my build at lvl 68 my build

I can't decide where to go now

1) hp nodes in marauder
2) hp nodes in templar
3) inner force

where to go first ?:)

thx