Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger Build(s) (0.10)

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Wain wrote:

Would it make sense to do this same build as a duelist in order to get out of the useless starting area faster? Also, would it make sense to take resolute technique?

This build definitely works out of the duelist tree as well. I don't necessarily think it would be any faster as I would still take the damage nodes near the duelist start as the majority of your damage early on is physical/projectile (it takes a bit before the elemental damage percentages take off). Theoretically you could get to IR in 9 points from the duelist start, but the gear you will have at the time likely wont be able to take advantage of it that early.



As far as resolute technique I would not get it. When build from the ranger tree, our chance to hit is already 95%+ just from dex, so resolute would really only give you an extra 5% which isn't worth the loss of crits. Duelist would have a slightly lower chance to hit, but I still dont think it would be worth it. Crits also provide shock debuff which adds an additional 25% to the damage the enemies take.

I'd strongly advise against getting Resolute Technique. Gettnig crits frmo Diamond flasks is highly effective in dealing with bosses or rares - don't gimp yourself.

Petrov.

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mrpetrov wrote:

I'd strongly advise against getting Resolute Technique. Gettnig crits frmo Diamond flasks is highly effective in dealing with bosses or rares - don't gimp yourself.

Petrov.

I have to agree with petrov here,
diamond flasks are an extremely effective way to deal a lot of dmg when you are in a tight spot or for bosses. Very often I don't even notice I killed the boss on a map because of this.
On the other hand if you are a bow templar with low dex, and your chance to hit is fairly low - 70% or less than resolut is an effective way to boost your dps for 50% or so.

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Petrov, would there be any actual benefit for us by dropping the blood magic keystone and using blood magic support gem for LA, while using 100% of our mana for auras?


Blood magic support is str, which is awful for us, but the life leech could possibly be enough to support it. (Or using some extra str gear to level the gem?)

Are there any useful auras that we could exploit this way?

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

Petrov, would there be any actual benefit for us by dropping the blood magic keystone and using blood magic support gem for LA, while using 100% of our mana for auras?


Blood magic support is str, which is awful for us, but the life leech could possibly be enough to support it. (Or using some extra str gear to level the gem?)

Are there any useful auras that we could exploit this way?

Well for starters the BM support gem doubles the cost of a skill,so in the case of lightning arrow that can normally go up to 50 mana per shot (depending on the support gems) it will be double to over 100 mana (or in this case life points) per arrow.
You will need a lot of health reg in order to sustain it.
Plus you will have to sacrifice a socket for it.

But anyway the way i see it there is no reason to not get BM for this kind of build since the only aura that you are actually missing is Hatred which doesn't even have a huge impact on damage since it transforms physical damage to cold damage.And with these builds physical damage is very low.
Sure there is also Purity,but as long as you invest in a few resistance nodes and equip some decent elemental resist gear you shouldn't have big problems with it.Its not like this is a melee build where resistance really is important since you tank damage.

Wrath ,Anger and Grace linked with a reduced mana gem is all you need imo.

I'm 100% with dualest on this. I think the BM skill gem uses up a valuable gem slot and doubles the cost of skills to a level that is difficult to sustain.

Likewise, I don't think there's a must-have aura that I'd use above the three mentioned.

So all I did was restate what dualest just said. Oops...

Petrov.

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mrpetrov wrote:

I'm 100% with dualest on this. I think the BM skill gem uses up a valuable gem slot and doubles the cost of skills to a level that is difficult to sustain.

Likewise, I don't think there's a must-have aura that I'd use above the three mentioned.

So all I did was restate what dualest just said. Oops...

Petrov.

Wrath,Anger,Haste,Hatred - they can all be combined when you reach 267 mana. Isn't it possible that they outperform the 6th gem in a 6linked LA combo? (the gem that we could replace with blood magic)

Determination,Grace,Purity are other possible auras, but can't be compared as easily.

Also, if we use Vaal pact keystone each arrow should be able to fill you up to 100% with the damage you are doing anyway.

Or am I just being an idiot here?

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

Also, if we use Vaal pact keystone each arrow should be able to fill you up to 100% with the damage you are doing anyway.

Or am I just being an idiot here?

The thing with Vaal Pact and Blood magic (either keystone or support gem) is that you have to always hit your target(s) and you need a lot of physical % life leech,which again physical damage isnt high on this build.
So even if you somehow get the maximum of 20% physical damage life leech i dont think you can sustain a 100 mana LA (because of the BM support)

Also taking into consideration the very fast attack speed of this build its quite easy to miss enemies indoors (at least from my experience),not every arrow hits its target.And when for every arrow hit you have to give up on aprox 100 life points its very clear that its just no worth it.




Also i forgot to mention that i had almost the exact same build ,but as a marauder before the Legacy migration.Here was his skill tree for anyone interested.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQEBA0OLpQQfeR4EjqecB2uU1Qh6wpwKqDEdCvwqrw9Iu-ISIY8jF4eVhxhg2UkitfrNI-9IrCyS8_4xLSI0MZNJ9zfEI386q_InOygtVUEt8PRExjLpRqoNjkhZ_PNQw9nhUll5yVupQbFjajwyZGXrG2SmULRlp-7KcPeHbHGEKRx4TQG6e4rWDX0L3jPNsSBX0TQ918vVF8_TP_B7u4pAGaI3qHabb0JK8N1IdLxH3uCkEYDFoeaENZfUxwaqFnYGk4cffvNHdxirZVXSqgU6VoDJM9XImb0Cs_keE-cJ6iqDXu8HhNccEt0jUXicvMMXtPZV4Y0PKVf0CpgUkrJitolpfpajoM6NnTAhOq662-H9aAltlIM7npXAPlHeoK9NjJ8Lapo64s3yQz9-3bweUrnWRGGJg5Mkt6LQaqpDMXzVjIP0-s6lmoqFdD3A5lhv3wMV1Kgveok=