Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

Glutton,congratulations!As far as stats go,you lead the thread :).I still consider taking the mana on kill nods whenever i get a 6L,if i don't find another way to deal with mana issues.With the 5L i can flicker as long as i need.I do not like perma flickering,and as i have said before,thats the reason i use 2 other attacks,cause this way i have more control over what i hit,and it is better for full groups.Now about your tree,i think you should drop the 3 accuracy passives in the ranger part,propably even the accuracy+phys damage behind flaying and nightstalker.I have 44% less accuracy than you from the tree,8 accuracy less on gear and 10 less dexterity,and my chance to hit is 87%, only 2% less.SO i don't really beleive it is worth 5 points.Instead you can focus more on defenses since you really don't need any more DPS.You crit chance is basically capped with crit weakness.I consider going for weapon artistry from the block route is a great option.You get 10% more block chance,50% increased defenses from shield,30% increased physical damage and 40 dexterity

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Poutsos wrote:

Glutton,congratulations!As far as stats go,you lead the thread :).I still consider taking the mana on kill nods whenever i get a 6L,if i don't find another way to deal with mana issues.With the 5L i can flicker as long as i need.I do not like perma flickering,and as i have said before,thats the reason i use 2 other attacks,cause this way i have more control over what i hit,and it is better for full groups.Now about your tree,i think you should drop the 3 accuracy passives in the ranger part,propably even the accuracy+phys damage behind flaying and nightstalker.I have 44% less accuracy than you from the tree,8 accuracy less on gear and 10 less dexterity,and my chance to hit is 87%, only 2% less.SO i don't really beleive it is worth 5 points.Instead you can focus more on defenses since you really don't need any more DPS.You crit chance is basically capped with crit weakness.I consider going for weapon artistry from the block route is a great option.You get 10% more block chance,50% increased defenses from shield,30% increased physical damage and 40 dexterity

Hey man, thanks much for the complements.

I have definately considered picking up some shield nodes. Block chance is big against reflect, and with a high es shield the extra defense would be a big benefit. Hopefully i can gain some levels and work on that.

As far as accuracy goes... i hate missing. I feel that a 13% chance to miss is much larger than a 9% chance. Also, since accuracy is rolled twice for us (once for the hit, once for the crit), i value it very highly. Ill try removing those nodes and see how it feels, but i believe it is one of the more important things for us.


Edit: just realized my chance to hit is 89, not 91 as it was a few levels ago. I wonder how signifigant the real difference it is against low to mid 70s creatures. Gonna try to find out.

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Glutton wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

Glutton,congratulations!As far as stats go,you lead the thread :).I still consider taking the mana on kill nods whenever i get a 6L,if i don't find another way to deal with mana issues.With the 5L i can flicker as long as i need.I do not like perma flickering,and as i have said before,thats the reason i use 2 other attacks,cause this way i have more control over what i hit,and it is better for full groups.Now about your tree,i think you should drop the 3 accuracy passives in the ranger part,propably even the accuracy+phys damage behind flaying and nightstalker.I have 44% less accuracy than you from the tree,8 accuracy less on gear and 10 less dexterity,and my chance to hit is 87%, only 2% less.SO i don't really beleive it is worth 5 points.Instead you can focus more on defenses since you really don't need any more DPS.You crit chance is basically capped with crit weakness.I consider going for weapon artistry from the block route is a great option.You get 10% more block chance,50% increased defenses from shield,30% increased physical damage and 40 dexterity

Hey man, thanks much for the complements.

I have definately considered picking up some shield nodes. Block chance is big against reflect, and with a high es shield the extra defense would be a big benefit. Hopefully i can gain some levels and work on that.

As far as accuracy goes... i hate missing. I feel that a 13% chance to miss is much larger than a 9% chance. Also, since accuracy is rolled twice for us (once for the hit, once for the crit), i value it very highly. Ill try removing those nodes and see how it feels, but i believe it is one of the more important things for us.


Edit: just realized my chance to hit is 89, not 91 as it was a few levels ago. I wonder how signifigant the real difference it is against low to mid 70s creatures. Gonna try to find out.

Well chance to hit is calculated seperately for each mob when u use melee splash,so it is not all miss or all hit.To tell you the truth i hardly notice any missing at all.

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Poutsos wrote:

QUETIONS-ANSWERS

-Do u recommend this build?
-No
-Why?
-Cause it sucks
-Why?
-U ll die.95% due to desynch and reflect mobs though
-THen why r u posting it?
-I have finished university final exams and i have alot of free time
-So why do u use it?
-I have lots of fun with it,it is the way i like to play my game
-how do u deal with reflect?
-i don't,i die!Or use lightning strike

So should i use this build or not?

this build or "Eldritch Battery Ethereal Knives Shadow" or "Dual Dagger CI, 116K aoe dps, can faceroll any mods.Videos of lvl 70+ maps, Anarchy guide"

Thanks! :)

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tyvar1 wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

QUETIONS-ANSWERS

-Do u recommend this build?
-No
-Why?
-Cause it sucks
-Why?
-U ll die.95% due to desynch and reflect mobs though
-THen why r u posting it?
-I have finished university final exams and i have alot of free time
-So why do u use it?
-I have lots of fun with it,it is the way i like to play my game
-how do u deal with reflect?
-i don't,i die!Or use lightning strike

So should i use this build or not?

this build or "Eldritch Battery Ethereal Knives Shadow" or "Dual Dagger CI, 116K aoe dps, can faceroll any mods.Videos of lvl 70+ maps, Anarchy guide"

Thanks! :)

Well i said that as i joke to make clear that this is not the safest build around.It is powerfull but u have to be alert at all times,and desync+reflect will always be an issue.Other than that all the builds u mentioned are prett good.Go with the one that seems more fun to you :)

Hooray skin transfer!

Well everyone, I tried an experiment. I respecced 7 points and put them into Iron Reflexes. I dropped Purity aura to run Determination. Had 21k armor with granite flask. Surprisingly, I did survive flickering against small groups of reflect monsters. However, I think evasion is superior. I died several times to stun lock (evasion helps a ton against stun) and even died to kole! I specced back after about 2 hours of play and 4 deaths.

My conclusion: I think iron reflexes is promising, especially for those who don't have 100k+ splash dps. However, I think it's 100% necessary to have immunity to stun if you don't have evasion. Also, using IR requires more auras (grace and determination a must), so it is hard to manage your mana.

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Glutton wrote:

Well everyone, I tried an experiment. I respecced 7 points and put them into Iron Reflexes. I dropped Purity aura to run Determination. Had 21k armor with granite flask. Surprisingly, I did survive flickering against small groups of reflect monsters. However, I think evasion is superior. I died several times to stun lock (evasion helps a ton against stun) and even died to kole! I specced back after about 2 hours of play and 4 deaths.

My conclusion: I think iron reflexes is promising, especially for those who don't have 100k+ splash dps. However, I think it's 100% necessary to have immunity to stun if you don't have evasion. Also, using IR requires more auras (grace and determination a must), so it is hard to manage your mana.

Mainly i beleive IR is good for ppl that do not use abyssus,and they are willing to sacrifice abit of ES for higher armour,wearing hybrid gear,in order to have some "serious"mitigation.Otherwise i beleive it is better to focus on block and a larger ES pool(i have experimented with IR as well)

I tried IR and even US for anarchy. Evasion is better and less passives. I am running Ondars Guile, and grace and liking it.

I also dropped my dps from gear to 40k with melee splash but am at about 100/240 IIQ/IIR and can still 70+ do maps. I make great currency. I am using a 6l with Flicker, Multi, Splash, Melee on Full, and iir, iiq gems. Worth it in my opinion. Plus super cheap mana cost to flicker so I can flicker forever. I also because of the lower phys damage, don't die to reflect for a few hits, and can sustain flicker against reflect with a granite.

i use IR/US as a flicker marauder. i can recommend going about 50-50 ev-es, if u build like me;)
but fine tuning depends mostly on reflected dmg and life leech, if your goal is indeed to be immune to reflect suicides. apart from this i think IR/US is most effective when using melee splash. the splash dmg isnt reflected as 1 hard blast, like with single target crit dmg, and gets way more mitigation.
for as far as blocking goes, i dont recommend gambling on a higher chance to block the reflec dmg. the combo of block and evasion can give you a decent chance to avoid reflec dmg but having enough leech and life/es is 100% safety.

its interesting to read about the mana issues above. some of you have a higher base dmg than i do yet there are more mana probs. maybe there is indeed a bug that calculates mana leech as a cumulative if the aps goes past a certain point. my marauder has 131 free mana and the skill cost stands at 74 with a multistrike linked. aps stands at 7.87 and is about to go up with 1more level of MS. occasionally i get the voice acting for being out of mana. but for as far as i can see it looks like its a minor sync issue because u can hear the voice acting mostly when all the mobs are dead already and my char flickers air.
im interested to know what your takes are on the mana probs.