Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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thenewapollo wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

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thenewapollo wrote:

im able to survive reflect with 16% leech and 16k armour unflasked. but what about you guys?
how much dps are you able to deal without having to switch to LS or other skills?
(and if possible anti stun and freeze incorporated)
ty for feedback

While wearing chayula(for antistun),on a 5L.without the use of lightning strike,meaning without power charges,i deal 132K single target and 81K with melee splash.On a 4L,without increase crit damage,and again without power charges i deal 103K single target.I never wear an anti freeze,except mervel boss in graveyard,and sometimes not even there.

edit:My dps on the build description is honest.I am posting it with the setup i run,not wearing other euipment to make it look better :D.That includes chayula obviously.Also my DPS on the firt page is how it would be on a 6L with power charge on crit as the 6th gem.But i prefer to gain power charges from disttance with LS anyway

im not doubting your dps. it´s a great accomplishment for a 5l.
im just wondering how much would remain of it when taking off abyssus and adding sufficient leech or working your way around reflect some other way without changing skills.

On my general information section on the first page,i have my DPS without abysus(but with power charges)

Another idea that just came to me and tested it.In order to not get one shoted on reflect you can go hybrid elemental,using added fire instead of melee on full life+melee splash,for AoE,and added fire + weapon elemental for single target.The DPS stays rediculously high(somewhat lower of course),and reflect still hurts,but you aren;t getting one shot.

Brilliant. That is why you own the thread.

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Sblak wrote:

Brilliant. That is why you own the thread.

Thank you ! However i really do not own the thread.The input of you guys so far have been magnificent and extremelly helpfull :)

I have a slightly different spec and gear focus, and will share it soon. Been trying to mf and having a bit of success with it. Thanks for all the pointers so far.

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raqxi wrote:

. I'd be curious though, could you post a screenshot of your flicker? Haven't seen a 2h variant yet.

i have no idea how to paste a print screen here (help appreciated), so ill just type the lot.
dps 85583.6
chance to hit 87%
att/s 7.87
phys dmg 1559-3147
cold dmg 390-787
accuracy 1688
speed increase 614%
crit chance 59%
multiplier 650%
life leech 16%
mana leech 2%

with 3 gems 1 more lvl up and one more 20% crit node dps should be about 90k
i also have a perfect pair of maligros apart from my current 43% ones. but i think those might just get me killed.
i havent tried added fire dmg. its indeed a solution for suicide prevention. with my gear and nodes all tricked out in order to run with melee on full.
i feel i should roll with added fire on a future build (probably low life).

just to confirm with poutsos. you got 105k dps and you have enough leech to sustain reflect when using melee on full?
if so, that would clearly set the dagger build apart from the 2h.

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thenewapollo wrote:

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raqxi wrote:

. I'd be curious though, could you post a screenshot of your flicker? Haven't seen a 2h variant yet.

i have no idea how to paste a print screen here (help appreciated), so ill just type the lot.
dps 85583.6
chance to hit 87%
att/s 7.87
phys dmg 1559-3147
cold dmg 390-787
accuracy 1688
speed increase 614%
crit chance 59%
multiplier 650%
life leech 16%
mana leech 2%

with 3 gems 1 more lvl up and one more 20% crit node dps should be about 90k
i also have a perfect pair of maligros apart from my current 43% ones. but i think those might just get me killed.
i havent tried added fire dmg. its indeed a solution for suicide prevention. with my gear and nodes all tricked out in order to run with melee on full.
i feel i should roll with added fire on a future build (probably low life).

just to confirm with poutsos. you got 105k dps and you have enough leech to sustain reflect when using melee on full?
if so, that would clearly set the dagger build apart from the 2h.

105K?R U refering to my single target DPS without abysus?If so,yeah,i wont get instant killed.My life leech is 14%.It is enough to survive as a warning.That doesnt mean that i will start flickering around.This build doesnt aim to flicker through reflect.If u can srvive the hit and then use another skill then fine.Personally i am willing to take the chance of one shotting myself for higher damage.The problem is accidental hits,which can be avoided throug carefull gameplay.Thats why this build utilises 3 attacks.The superiority of daggers for critical builds,is a given thing.You can get higher DPS and MUCH higher ES.If you want to be certain that you are not oneshoting your self,you just ran some basic math,and if your damage exceeds the limit,you respec for more ES and thats it.The use of abyssus is optional.I personally use it,cause i have found that on 1-3 groups,excluding reflect situations,it allows me to kill way faster,and ultimately gives me more survivability and clear speed.The reflect thing is a gamble that i am willing to take.

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thenewapollo wrote:

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raqxi wrote:

. I'd be curious though, could you post a screenshot of your flicker? Haven't seen a 2h variant yet.

i have no idea how to paste a print screen here (help appreciated), so ill just type the lot.
dps 85583.6
chance to hit 87%
att/s 7.87
phys dmg 1559-3147
cold dmg 390-787
accuracy 1688
speed increase 614%
crit chance 59%
multiplier 650%
life leech 16%
mana leech 2%

with 3 gems 1 more lvl up and one more 20% crit node dps should be about 90k
i also have a perfect pair of maligros apart from my current 43% ones. but i think those might just get me killed.
i havent tried added fire dmg. its indeed a solution for suicide prevention. with my gear and nodes all tricked out in order to run with melee on full.
i feel i should roll with added fire on a future build (probably low life).

just to confirm with poutsos. you got 105k dps and you have enough leech to sustain reflect when using melee on full?
if so, that would clearly set the dagger build apart from the 2h.

On a max crit roll, you do 20.45k dps thanks to your low multiplier. 18% of that gets reflected, so 3681. That's the amount of ES or HP you have to have to survive. Everything else is just a matter of having 18% life leech and Vaal pact, assuming you're not using abyssus.

If you push your phys damage to 4k by e.g. using another melee phys gem, the required health would increase to 4680. If the damage stays the same, but the multiplier goes to 850, you need 4.5k. So, i guess you still have room to push your dps higher via phys or multiplier. You could push your dps by using added fire and faster attacks without increasing the risk of one-shotting yourself, but then where would the fun with a flicker build be...

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raqxi wrote:

On a max crit roll, you do 20.45k dps thanks to your low multiplier. 18% of that gets reflected, so 3681. That's the amount of ES or HP you have to have to survive. Everything else is just a matter of having 18% life leech and Vaal pact, assuming you're not using abyssus.

If you push your phys damage to 4k by e.g. using another melee phys gem, the required health would increase to 4680. If the damage stays the same, but the multiplier goes to 850, you need 4.5k. So, i guess you still have room to push your dps higher via phys or multiplier. You could push your dps by using added fire and faster attacks without increasing the risk of one-shotting yourself, but then where would the fun with a flicker build be...

you´ll might be surprised to find that my es is only 3219.
with 16k armour 16% leech is just enough to keep holding the rightclick button. sometimes im actually fast enough to use my granite flask, which doubles my armour.

i could swop my hybrid armour for a pure $ 6l vaal but then id have to get more leech. this would mean losing dream fragments and having tight mana or getting extremely lucky with exalting my double dmg modded staff. but like as you say, where´s the fun if you could actually roll a 3rd dmg mod. i understand poustos very well regarding this.

on my next flicker build im still undecided about the 6th gem. added fire seems like a nice option, which can be boosted by a nice belt aswell. added crit chance seems like smooth choice aswell but it might boost the crit chance over the cap. what do you guys think about culling as opposed to added fire or other gems?

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raqxi wrote:

. I'd be curious though, could you post a screenshot of your flicker? Haven't seen a 2h variant yet.

There's a marauder thread with a staff flicker striker !

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thenewapollo wrote:

i have no idea how to paste a print screen here (help appreciated), so ill just type the lot.
dps 85583.6
chance to hit 87%
att/s 7.87
phys dmg 1559-3147
cold dmg 390-787
accuracy 1688
speed increase 614%
crit chance 59%
multiplier 650%
life leech 16%
mana leech 2%

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