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OK, bad news news. On garena server they changed the base multiplier from 1.5 to 1.3, meaning that we will end with 20% less multiplier. The good news, i tried my current version with zero aura passives, spending them on some DPS and more ES. I ended up with 500 more ES and 10K les DPS, so in the new tree, where auras are nerfed and harder to get, i almost definetely will play without any aura passives. With acuity it is already manageble, and i guess with the tree i am thining about, i will have more mana overall, and they said that they are lowering the mana cost of skills. I guess The DPS with the change to multiplier will decrease, but ES will almost definetely increase. More on launch. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow	Posted by Poutsos#0458 on Aug 15, 2014, 9:12:53 AM Quote this Post
Good to know. Question, does anyone know if that multiplier change is implemented on poebuilder? Edit: This is what I am looking at right now, that is, if we keep the same basic layout of the old build. https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_sbPtQaZ_tUhw1YnTcFIqC_PqX2rb50cG8uFjQw5IXfJ94yzhrGa5Pth2joqX0NtuVvUsv8HFf8YRlhXXhq5WY53EWPW3MUNjms9xTWae-tIdFI9Gm6H316yYEQ9MLRSwgh6IQpJ9mG9Z88AaMFTqGPcycqmsqvtFJOE9PtwjP5ufyw48FHH465Ab29SaE3BWoqO5fIwL7LA2PW1spcvlz8HzBX3p_i1V0All8bt8IQMi6ujW53S4yjt8D8QRL-tjmZo1uR1PLR-VIKcrd_3DbVxrhEgRUNlbbRlV1mTnFy-ApA== removing aura nodes and replacing with es: https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_sbPtQaZ_tUhw1YnTcFIqC_PqX2rb50cG8uFjQw5IXfJ94yzhrGa5Pth2joqX0NtuVvUsv8HFf8YRlhXXhq5WY53EWPW3MUNjms9xTWae-tIdFI9Gm6H316yYEQ9MLRSwgh6IQpJ9mG9Z88AaMFTqGPcycqmsqvtFJOE9PtwjP5ufyw48FHH465Ab29SaE3BWoqO5fIwL7LA2PW1spcvlz8HzBX3p_i1V0All8bt8IQMi6ujW53S4yjt8D8QRL-tjmZo1uR1PLR-VIKcrd_3DbVxrhEgRUNlbbRni9-kCS64bJQ== results: +~700 es -~12k dps /w Flickerstrike With mirrored Dagger, Acuity, and using Abyssus. Other gear is all self found and not that great. Thinking about dropping the extra frenzy charge as I'm pretty sure desync happens more often the faster you flicker. would put it into more ES. Also, you don't really need to flicker 8.5 times a second. Am I on the right track for passives or anyone see something I'm missing? Last edited by raceu2hell#0682 on Aug 15, 2014, 11:35:30 AM	Posted by raceu2hell#0682 on Aug 15, 2014, 11:07:04 AM Quote this Post
I was thinking for my level 96 something like https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_7UGxs6Z_tUhwUioL8-oRL-tjmZorCrb3XfIOSGNDRwby4Y6Kl9Dbblb12HZ94yzhrGa5Pm1spcvndOjWIuohA2Xxu3wFfen-LVXQCRGWkBtwVpoT29R_xqKjuMo7fA_ELR-VIMHzpys1uR1PEVA2xR8CBAdMs8NtXGuESOL3AW-LelZjFdeGriy_wcWnCNgkj0YdFPrSZp6dxFj1tzFDY5rPcU1Z88Aa5c-SfZhvrKrqGPcycqn7RSThP5vcIz0-MFT46xRxDjyfy9vnX2p-WW0Z2VsbJUuu6QI= I end up with 30% more crit chance and i was already way overcapped with power charges, and i have more accuracy than before(that's why i neglected depth perception). Of course for this pull you need both acuity and auxium. Otherwise you need mind drinker and vaal pact. I don't know how's that gonna work now. We will see on launch https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow	Posted by Poutsos#0458 on Aug 15, 2014, 1:32:33 PM Quote this Post
We also have no idea if flicker strike's base damage is getting nerfed or buffed yet either, Tri Curse Freezing Ball Lightning Witch - view-thread/1483161 ------------------------------------------------------- General Martinus' Spoils of War - view-thread/419523 ------------------------------------------------------- Proud Alpha Tester, helping shape the world of Wraeclast	Posted by GeneralMartinus#1413 on Aug 15, 2014, 3:05:22 PM Quote this Post
" GeneralMartinus wrote: We also have no idea if flicker strike's base damage is getting nerfed or buffed yet either, I seriously doubt it will get buffed. I hope it does not get nerfed, i think it is reasonalbe for flicker to hit the hardest of all melee hits, since it is by far the most risky one. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow	Posted by Poutsos#0458 on Aug 16, 2014, 8:27:21 AM Quote this Post
True, then again when I saw an overall dps increase when this build or any crit dagger build for that case, was buffed, I had a sinking feeling they were going to re-haul the skill gems. They already said some skills were getting adjusted like ST. Also, most skills were getting altered with mana values, so this would be a good time to do any additional adjustments on GGG's part I would assume. I honestly hope you are right, I made some slight variations to your build and actually saw a small increase in my ES and a nice increase to my dps. I'll put my tin foil hat on and hope for the best. Tri Curse Freezing Ball Lightning Witch - view-thread/1483161 ------------------------------------------------------- General Martinus' Spoils of War - view-thread/419523 ------------------------------------------------------- Proud Alpha Tester, helping shape the world of Wraeclast	Posted by GeneralMartinus#1413 on Aug 16, 2014, 11:40:00 AM Quote this Post
Hi Poutsos, I want to say thanks again for this great guide: I managed it to get to Level 100. My Version of this character is very close to your suggested version in the guide. The only basic difference is, that I went for CoE+Spell damage shield. Interested guys can find my final tree and final gear in the spoilers below. Showcase Gear Tree PassiveTree Gem Setup 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Melee Physical Damage - Increased Critical Damage 4L: cwdt(20) - Immortal Call(20/20) - Molten Shell(20/20) - Increased Duration (20/20) 4L: cwdt(1) - Enduring cry - crit weakness - enfeeble 4L: Blood Rage - Vaal Haste - Vaal Discipline - Increased Duration 3L: Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Portal 3L: Hatred - Discipline - Reduced Mana For MFing I switch my 6L to 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Increased Item Quantity - Increased Item Rarity I can do this in a 2 ppl game without loosing kill speed. Furthermore, I use this setup on maps with phys reflect and vulnerability. Stats ~36k average damage on hit ~8-10 APS ~400k-500k DPS ~10k ES ~25% damage reduction ~resistances at 75% New Tree I made some theory craft about the FlickerStriker in the new patch. I am very open to discuss this new version with you and the community. Tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_sbPtQaZ_tUhtbPPq53QqC9sa6NZwUhB7IuqJ0746IQNw1bt8XfJl8bb3DkjQCSsKEZYtVREvf8aQG-n-wcUc3Hf9cFYFfSy_7BiTJ9vUmhOGro_6cLu0DBXX0NDZE-q6W_RWY0cGL28NfNvn2HZXyV9quT5W9Sj6rGbbbuvugscs4ZfQuJMMfX3jjoqnCBB_j0bGnh0Um6H60vfXZp4XL4RIwBpxTYbRXGvi91nzms8ksMNtAW-sqphvQ2OApIt6cqmSfbcx9zLlz1j16hidxPjrMFQUcT0-DjzcI5_LP5s= My last Post (older character version) Spoiler " pasta777 wrote: Hi Poutsos, thx for this great guide. I tried your FlickerStriker in Anarchy for the first time, but discarded it due to the lack of stun immunity and missing currency. One month ago I gave it second try and yesterday I hitted lvl 96. My Conlcusion is: FlickerStrike is amazing. I'm using the same build basically, but some aspects are different. I am using the opportunity here to present (and hopefully discuss) it. Showcase Gear Tree PassiveTree Gem Setup 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Melee Physical Damage - Increased Critical Damage 4L: cwdt(20) - Immortal Call(20/20) - Molten Shell(20/20) - Increased Duration (20/20) 4L: cwdt(1) - Enduring cry - crit weakness - enfeeble 4L: Blood Rage - Vaal Haste - Vaal Discipline - Increased Duration 3L: Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Portal 3L: Hatred - Discipline - Reduced Mana For MFing I switch my 6L to 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Increased Item Quantity - Increased Item Rarity I can do this in a 2 ppl game without loosing kill speed. Furthermore, I use this setup on maps with phys reflect and vulnerability. Stats ~36k average damage on hit ~8-10 APS ~300k DPS ~10k ES ~25% damage reduction ~resistances at 75% Major Differences and Ideas: 1. As you can see, I am using neither Auxium nor Dream Fragments, I have a flask instead. On my way to level 96 I died only once due to be frozen. 2. I play without Power charges. With "Dragon Hunger" its possible to reach the crit cap of 95% without any charges. I am at 92% crit chance with Flicker Strike, and I plan to replace my prismatic ring with a Diamond Ring soon to hit the cap. 3. I am using Windsream because of the extra curse. I let my low cwdt do the cursing (crit weakness + enfeeble). Since I have installed this, I didn't die anymore. The +1 frenzy charge is also very comfortable, especially in larger partys (5-6 ppl). Ofc windscream has no ES, no mana, low armor and low resis, compared to Rainbowstride or crafted bootes, but I will never go back to a single curse. Especially on elemental reflect maps this setup works like "double curse on hit" and therefore feels like a 9-link-attack. 4. I am not using any alternative attack. Maybe thats a weak point here. For hard bosses or Atziri I swap Flicker Strike to Frenzy. However, in 1-2 player games the map bosses melt down with my 5 frenzy charges immediately, only palace dominus requires gem swapping. 5. I skilled nearly all aura effectiveness nodes and Inner Force. 6. I heavily use Vaal Haste nearly all of the time. I keep Vaal Discipline for emergency cases at Atziri or bosses, but hardly use it. 7. I did not skill any crit multiplier so far. The damage is awesome without it. Maybe I consider skilling this when I hit lvl 98. 8. I aimed for some Armor on my euqipment in order to have some damage reduction. I plan to replace the helmet by a hybrid armor/ES preator crown in some time. Endgame The kill speed with this kind of character is very high, also in partys. Ppl complain, that I am often too far away and out of xp range. From my experience only good geared Fyndel ST chars have a higher clear speed, Mjölner Discharger are comparable. The largest danger for me is Flickering into a divine shrine. Furthermore, I try to avoid maps with phys reflect + vulnerability + -max res. I cant play Blood magic. I dont like to play alone. Typically, one can find me in groups with 2-4 ppl. Atziri I did more then 200 Atziri runs with it. The required time for one Apex run (full clear) is between 5-10 minutes. Vaal and Trio Bosses can be handled with Flicker Stirke, Atziri requires gem swapping to Frenzy. I do not have Purity of Fire or Elemental Adaption and I dont need a ruby flask. Sometimes I die at Atziri, when I take large risks by trying to tank the huge flameblast or storm calls. Uber Atziri Never seriously tried that so far. IGN ................... MikeManning Alt Art Stuff ....... view-thread/1401085 Shop ................. view-thread/536289 Boost-Service .... view-thread/543033 Gilde ................. view-thread/817890	Posted by pasta777#4918 on Aug 17, 2014, 12:51:43 PM Quote this Post
" pasta777 wrote: Hi Poutsos, I want to say thanks again for this great guide: I managed it to get to Level 100. My Version of this character is very close to your suggested version in the guide. The only basic difference is, that I went for CoE+Spell damage shield. Interested guys can find my final tree and final gear in the spoilers below. Showcase Gear Tree PassiveTree Gem Setup 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Melee Physical Damage - Increased Critical Damage 4L: cwdt(20) - Immortal Call(20/20) - Molten Shell(20/20) - Increased Duration (20/20) 4L: cwdt(1) - Enduring cry - crit weakness - enfeeble 4L: Blood Rage - Vaal Haste - Vaal Discipline - Increased Duration 3L: Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Portal 3L: Hatred - Discipline - Reduced Mana For MFing I switch my 6L to 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Increased Item Quantity - Increased Item Rarity I can do this in a 2 ppl game without loosing kill speed. Furthermore, I use this setup on maps with phys reflect and vulnerability. Stats ~36k average damage on hit ~8-10 APS ~400k-500k DPS ~10k ES ~25% damage reduction ~resistances at 75% New Tree I made some theory craft about the FlickerStriker in the new patch. I am very open to discuss this new version with you and the community. Tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_sbPtQaZ_tUhtbPPq53QqC9sa6NZwUhB7IuqJ0746IQNw1bt8XfJl8bb3DkjQCSsKEZYtVREvf8aQG-n-wcUc3Hf9cFYFfSy_7BiTJ9vUmhOGro_6cLu0DBXX0NDZE-q6W_RWY0cGL28NfNvn2HZXyV9quT5W9Sj6rGbbbuvugscs4ZfQuJMMfX3jjoqnCBB_j0bGnh0Um6H60vfXZp4XL4RIwBpxTYbRXGvi91nzms8ksMNtAW-sqphvQ2OApIt6cqmSfbcx9zLlz1j16hidxPjrMFQUcT0-DjzcI5_LP5s= My last Post (older character version) Spoiler " pasta777 wrote: Hi Poutsos, thx for this great guide. I tried your FlickerStriker in Anarchy for the first time, but discarded it due to the lack of stun immunity and missing currency. One month ago I gave it second try and yesterday I hitted lvl 96. My Conlcusion is: FlickerStrike is amazing. I'm using the same build basically, but some aspects are different. I am using the opportunity here to present (and hopefully discuss) it. Showcase Gear Tree PassiveTree Gem Setup 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Melee Physical Damage - Increased Critical Damage 4L: cwdt(20) - Immortal Call(20/20) - Molten Shell(20/20) - Increased Duration (20/20) 4L: cwdt(1) - Enduring cry - crit weakness - enfeeble 4L: Blood Rage - Vaal Haste - Vaal Discipline - Increased Duration 3L: Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Portal 3L: Hatred - Discipline - Reduced Mana For MFing I switch my 6L to 6L: Flicker - Multistrike - Melee Splash - Melee Damage on Full life - Increased Item Quantity - Increased Item Rarity I can do this in a 2 ppl game without loosing kill speed. Furthermore, I use this setup on maps with phys reflect and vulnerability. Stats ~36k average damage on hit ~8-10 APS ~300k DPS ~10k ES ~25% damage reduction ~resistances at 75% Major Differences and Ideas: 1. As you can see, I am using neither Auxium nor Dream Fragments, I have a flask instead. On my way to level 96 I died only once due to be frozen. 2. I play without Power charges. With "Dragon Hunger" its possible to reach the crit cap of 95% without any charges. I am at 92% crit chance with Flicker Strike, and I plan to replace my prismatic ring with a Diamond Ring soon to hit the cap. 3. I am using Windsream because of the extra curse. I let my low cwdt do the cursing (crit weakness + enfeeble). Since I have installed this, I didn't die anymore. The +1 frenzy charge is also very comfortable, especially in larger partys (5-6 ppl). Ofc windscream has no ES, no mana, low armor and low resis, compared to Rainbowstride or crafted bootes, but I will never go back to a single curse. Especially on elemental reflect maps this setup works like "double curse on hit" and therefore feels like a 9-link-attack. 4. I am not using any alternative attack. Maybe thats a weak point here. For hard bosses or Atziri I swap Flicker Strike to Frenzy. However, in 1-2 player games the map bosses melt down with my 5 frenzy charges immediately, only palace dominus requires gem swapping. 5. I skilled nearly all aura effectiveness nodes and Inner Force. 6. I heavily use Vaal Haste nearly all of the time. I keep Vaal Discipline for emergency cases at Atziri or bosses, but hardly use it. 7. I did not skill any crit multiplier so far. The damage is awesome without it. Maybe I consider skilling this when I hit lvl 98. 8. I aimed for some Armor on my euqipment in order to have some damage reduction. I plan to replace the helmet by a hybrid armor/ES preator crown in some time. Endgame The kill speed with this kind of character is very high, also in partys. Ppl complain, that I am often too far away and out of xp range. From my experience only good geared Fyndel ST chars have a higher clear speed, Mjölner Discharger are comparable. The largest danger for me is Flickering into a divine shrine. Furthermore, I try to avoid maps with phys reflect + vulnerability + -max res. I cant play Blood magic. I dont like to play alone. Typically, one can find me in groups with 2-4 ppl. Atziri I did more then 200 Atziri runs with it. The required time for one Apex run (full clear) is between 5-10 minutes. Vaal and Trio Bosses can be handled with Flicker Stirke, Atziri requires gem swapping to Frenzy. I do not have Purity of Fire or Elemental Adaption and I dont need a ruby flask. Sometimes I die at Atziri, when I take large risks by trying to tank the huge flameblast or storm calls. Uber Atziri Never seriously tried that so far. Wow man, GZ about 100! Sick gear you got there as well. Yeah i remember your last post well. Nice to see that the dual curse thing worked pretty well :D. I have quit for abit more than 2 monts now(logged in a few times without really playing). lv100 is highly unrealistic for a solo/duo player like myself. Doable, but too tedius i gess. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow	Posted by Poutsos#0458 on Aug 17, 2014, 1:30:19 PM Quote this Post
Uber is def doable with this build, it's just not as simple as reg atziri. I downed her with this gear on, not even optimized fully yet. ~29k tooltip/9 aps ( started from scion ) 9.7k es I took off hatred and ran purity of fire, and obviously used all light/fire flasks. Clearing the mobs you have to make sure youre not desynced. Vaal was a joke, trio was tough, i died once the first time. You also cant just tank uber, you actually have to dodge some shots. I kept flicker on 6l for the fight and used frenzy on 4l for mirror phase. Also revised the tree a bit to get more max res and flask nodes. I tried to make a vid second time around but it was too laggy. If I ever do a third run ill try and record it for this thread.	Posted by MugsyBoges#6542 on Aug 18, 2014, 9:00:30 PM Quote this Post
" MugsyBoges wrote: Uber is def doable with this build, it's just not as simple as reg atziri. I downed her with this gear on, not even optimized fully yet. ~29k tooltip/9 aps ( started from scion ) 9.7k es I took off hatred and ran purity of fire, and obviously used all light/fire flasks. Clearing the mobs you have to make sure youre not desynced. Vaal was a joke, trio was tough, i died once the first time. You also cant just tank uber, you actually have to dodge some shots. I kept flicker on 6l for the fight and used frenzy on 4l for mirror phase. Also revised the tree a bit to get more max res and flask nodes. I tried to make a vid second time around but it was too laggy. If I ever do a third run ill try and record it for this thread. Nice, good job over there. I know uber is doable. I ve downed her once myself but i used all 6 portals. The trio felt harder to me than uber herself. Dunno, maybe i ll try her once more sometime if i start playing again and make a video if i manage to do it deathless. I doubt it though. I also got frozen and died one time in vaals as well. The first time i tried that map though i got owned early on, so i let a friend run instead. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow	Posted by Poutsos#0458 on Aug 18, 2014, 10:54:18 PM Quote this Post