Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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Poutsos wrote:

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Joshe wrote:

Aight, lvl 70 here. 4400 ES, maxed resistances, bino's, 80% crit chance and I die 500 times before i finally lvl up. Lightning rapes me as it interrupts flicker strike, can't really keep frenzy charges up on low lvl maps (even 66 ones). Fuck knows what I did wrong. Tree is ok, gear is ok. Build looks nice on the video, but it's gonna take literally ages for people to reach that level. I'm done with that, gonna try something that isn't so frustrating

4400ES is painfully low to do maps,or flicker.There is a reason that my suggested tree for level 72-the bare minimum for respecing to CI- takes to many ES passives,and little DPS.It aims to make you tanky and play with double strike until level 80 or so were you also get your DPS passives to start flickering efficiently.Also,what colours you have on your chest?Is it 5L or 6L?Bino's is a great dagger,but if your rest of your gear is not on par,dont expect to pull an efficient CI build at level 70,especially if you go for a glass cannon skill tree.
Having said that,yeah,the so called balance changes that GGG did with vaal pact,and generally,fucked over anyone who is not over geared.Last May when i started this build,it was perfectly viable for low-mid maps,with almost completely self found gear.

I really hope we don't get screwed again. I was geared pretty well so done ok after vaal nerf but if they nerf dagger nodes into the ground next also...

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Poutsos wrote:

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Joshe wrote:

Aight, lvl 70 here. 4400 ES, maxed resistances, bino's, 80% crit chance and I die 500 times before i finally lvl up. Lightning rapes me as it interrupts flicker strike, can't really keep frenzy charges up on low lvl maps (even 66 ones). Fuck knows what I did wrong. Tree is ok, gear is ok. Build looks nice on the video, but it's gonna take literally ages for people to reach that level. I'm done with that, gonna try something that isn't so frustrating

4400ES is painfully low to do maps,or flicker.There is a reason that my suggested tree for level 72-the bare minimum for respecing to CI- takes to many ES passives,and little DPS.It aims to make you tanky and play with double strike until level 80 or so were you also get your DPS passives to start flickering efficiently.Also,what colours you have on your chest?Is it 5L or 6L?Bino's is a great dagger,but if your rest of your gear is not on par,dont expect to pull an efficient CI build at level 70,especially if you go for a glass cannon skill tree.
Having said that,yeah,the so called balance changes that GGG did with vaal pact,and generally,fucked over anyone who is not over geared.Last May when i started this build,it was perfectly viable for low-mid maps,with almost completely self found gear.

Well, i had a 5L chest with 3k damage per hit, ruined it (4L now, doesnt matter anyway) after I got really mad at this build and tried to 6L it in order to get higher dps which would also get me tankier. Its 700+ ES vaal regalia, BGRRR + B which wasnt connected. I took every ES node near shadow tree, including CI and nodes behind it, rest is just crit chance/multipier. Now I'm moving to left side, took IF just recently after finishing right side. Gear is pure ES, but not THAT good since im trying it on 1-month race and there are no better ES items than I have, at least not in my reach. I can clear out lunaris in matter of 2 minutes but piety really rapes me with her lightning spells and im not fast enough to leech ES back with this poor dps of mine. I can do only 2 66 maps which are Dunes and Dried Lake since its open area and i dont get stuck behind walls etc., so my flicker strike isnt interrupted by anything except of lack of frenzy charges which is matter of DPS. i could try going for abyssus but id sacrifice few hundred of ES and some resistances which would make me go for purity of elements, but then i wouldnt have enough mana to flicker like np., i already spam mana flasks like mad. Its just a lose-lose. the only thing that could actually save my flicker char is acuity or VP, but i doubt that i will reach any of these. if acuity ever shows up on 1ml it will be overpriced as fuck, and i will get Vp when im lvl ~85ish, unless i sacrifice dps/es with respec points which is a lose-lose again. i just dont want to farm lunaris till i get to actually playable level, takes too long, its frustrating and fucking annoying

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Joshe wrote:

Well, i had a 5L chest with 3k damage per hit, ruined it (4L now, doesnt matter anyway) after I got really mad at this build and tried to 6L it in order to get higher dps which would also get me tankier. Its 700+ ES vaal regalia, BGRRR + B which wasnt connected. I took every ES node near shadow tree, including CI and nodes behind it, rest is just crit chance/multipier. Now I'm moving to left side, took IF just recently after finishing right side. Gear is pure ES, but not THAT good since im trying it on 1-month race and there are no better ES items than I have, at least not in my reach. I can clear out lunaris in matter of 2 minutes but piety really rapes me with her lightning spells and im not fast enough to leech ES back with this poor dps of mine. I can do only 2 66 maps which are Dunes and Dried Lake since its open area and i dont get stuck behind walls etc., so my flicker strike isnt interrupted by anything except of lack of frenzy charges which is matter of DPS. i could try going for abyssus but id sacrifice few hundred of ES and some resistances which would make me go for purity of elements, but then i wouldnt have enough mana to flicker like np., i already spam mana flasks like mad. Its just a lose-lose. the only thing that could actually save my flicker char is acuity or VP, but i doubt that i will reach any of these. if acuity ever shows up on 1ml it will be overpriced as fuck, and i will get Vp when im lvl ~85ish, unless i sacrifice dps/es with respec points which is a lose-lose again. i just dont want to farm lunaris till i get to actually playable level, takes too long, its frustrating and fucking annoying

Ok,i get it now,this is not a build suitable for an one month race.However your tree is definetely NOT ok.You are not supposed to finish the right side of the tree and move on to the left etc.I have a setion in the original thread about leveling and the first transition to CI.You are playing CI crit melee without unwavering stance or vaal pact.That alone is suicide.Also having the reduced reservation passives on the templar side is crucial to minimize mana issues,and the ES/armour passives there are propably the best on the tree.Also checking my level 72 CI tree,i beleive it is better to change influence with innerf force and use enhance on blood rage for extra leech.Other than that,that's the tree someone who should be using at that point,if you wants safe leveling.
Also,unless you have a 6L with the desired colours,you are definetely not supposed to be flickering at that level,as i indicate on the original post.You are supposed to use double strike,since your DPS will be lower,and to take it slower.3-4K averange damage,without vaal pact or stun immunity and 4.4K ES,definetely makes it impossible to be flickering.
Flicker Strike is the most endgame of all melee skills.Crazy powerfull if you can do it properly-the most powerfull melee skill for solo small party play by a long shot-,but downright sucks if you are not ready for it.

At the current state of the game though,by the time you are able to afford a good CI flicker,you are propably better off playing a medium low life spectral throw.I dislike that,but that's the current state of the game...

Unless you really care about the inner force/buff cluster, you save about 1 point by going over the witch start instead of below it. I'd probably argue that investing some points into those four fantastic block clusters (14 points total giving 26% additional block chance along with some other benefits) you have direct access to is a better use.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABAcFfQ48DkgPxBB7ES8RlhRxFdcWvxcvGLAdFB4aHwIk4SgqKwosvyzhLR8vbzBUNsU7fD-bQ2NEgUcGTLNV1lZjVupW9Vj1WfNfamNDZOdmnm0ZcFJwVnC7cU1yqX3jfll_xoCkhq6H24hCjoqPRpAbkn2X0JhvmVeZmpoTms-dxJ_LoqOmf6cIpzSsZqyqsbO0xbVItve3MbjKuT65fL46wBrAUcEAwcXB88Lsw23Xhtgk2HbZE9sa227b1Nwj44Tlz-n-6hjrY-wY7UHy4fPq9Uv3Mvjr-tL7Rf-T

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BraxusINC wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

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Joshe wrote:

Aight, lvl 70 here. 4400 ES, maxed resistances, bino's, 80% crit chance and I die 500 times before i finally lvl up. Lightning rapes me as it interrupts flicker strike, can't really keep frenzy charges up on low lvl maps (even 66 ones). Fuck knows what I did wrong. Tree is ok, gear is ok. Build looks nice on the video, but it's gonna take literally ages for people to reach that level. I'm done with that, gonna try something that isn't so frustrating

4400ES is painfully low to do maps,or flicker.There is a reason that my suggested tree for level 72-the bare minimum for respecing to CI- takes to many ES passives,and little DPS.It aims to make you tanky and play with double strike until level 80 or so were you also get your DPS passives to start flickering efficiently.Also,what colours you have on your chest?Is it 5L or 6L?Bino's is a great dagger,but if your rest of your gear is not on par,dont expect to pull an efficient CI build at level 70,especially if you go for a glass cannon skill tree.
Having said that,yeah,the so called balance changes that GGG did with vaal pact,and generally,fucked over anyone who is not over geared.Last May when i started this build,it was perfectly viable for low-mid maps,with almost completely self found gear.

I really hope we don't get screwed again. I was geared pretty well so done ok after vaal nerf but if they nerf dagger nodes into the ground next also...

I hope not too, When the Vaal pact nerf happend i was in the process of just getting half decent gear. Had just bought my 6l Es chest and was looking what to upgrade next, Then Atziri's gloves became the most important thing to get.... Got them last week.

I'm hoping that the nerf don't cost another 80ex plus or break the build completely.

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XSUB7X wrote:

I hope not too, When the Vaal pact nerf happend i was in the process of just getting half decent gear. Had just bought my 6l Es chest and was looking what to upgrade next, Then Atziri's gloves became the most important thing to get.... Got them last week.

I'm hoping that the nerf don't cost another 80ex plus or break the build completely.

Well,i think it will be bad.The image from the new shadow tree,seems like it will be hard and spend many points to get out of the starting area,thing that will make reaching certain key stones or notables hader.Also we do expect sever nerf to crit in general and dagger nods specifically.Also patch history is not in our favour either.Every patch from 1 and on made this build harder to make,especially for the poorer players,while adding loopholes for the richer players to be more powerfull than ever.I guess we will see.

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Poutsos wrote:

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XSUB7X wrote:

I hope not too, When the Vaal pact nerf happend i was in the process of just getting half decent gear. Had just bought my 6l Es chest and was looking what to upgrade next, Then Atziri's gloves became the most important thing to get.... Got them last week.

I'm hoping that the nerf don't cost another 80ex plus or break the build completely.

Well,i think it will be bad.The image from the new shadow tree,seems like it will be hard and spend many points to get out of the starting area,thing that will make reaching certain key stones or notables hader.Also we do expect sever nerf to crit in general and dagger nods specifically.Also patch history is not in our favour either.Every patch from 1 and on made this build harder to make,especially for the poorer players,while adding loopholes for the richer players to be more powerfull than ever.I guess we will see.

I'll prob quit after another nerf. Flicker/low life dont work w.o huge investment. Realize the drawback to dagger crit builds, (w the exception of ST)

People whining for nerfs in this case are either poor and bitter or actually had the currency, made a low life build and still couldnt make it work. Envy kills arpgs.

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LoPan wrote:

I'll prob quit after another nerf. Flicker/low life dont work w.o huge investment. Realize the drawback to dagger crit builds, (w the exception of ST)

People whining for nerfs in this case are either poor and bitter or actually had the currency, made a low life build and still couldnt make it work. Envy kills arpgs.

Well i was one of these whiners,but specifically for spectral throw,because that build just does EVEYTHING better than anyother build WITH THE SAME INVESTMENT.People expecting with 10,20 or 100 ex to have low life status results are insane,but i am talking about spending the same amount.
I never had problem with low life flicker,double strike,or whatever,cause it just worked as intented.Great power at the expense of ES,if the CI guy of course had comparable gear.And nfortunately,i think your build will get hit even harder than this one,cause i beleive that they ll hit low life severely as well,when the problem clearly lyes in one skill.
I do beleive that soe "adjustment" should be done on auras,cause they usually give the best results than everything else on the tree.I mean even on your build,if you decided to ditch several physical damage/dagger passives,and just took crit passives,and all aura passives,you d end up with double DPS-even without snapshoting-.I tested that on my lv95 CI aegis aurora tank.He abuses auras,having spent 20 points on auras.With these points-just from auras- i gain 2300 ES, 23K armour and 20K DPS.As a test i tried using no aura passives,just use 2 auras and spent these 20 points on actual ES passives,armour passives and damage passives.The results were laughable.Without asking to nerf auras,spesific points on Damage and defense need buffing,in order to prevent an all aura passive abuse being the TO GO road.

And people fail to see the situation as it really is.The see dagger passives and scream OP!What do dagger passives really do?The give crit,that's what they SHOULD do,it is THE crit weapon.The fail to see that a level 24 wrath,with all the aura passives gives it around 400 averange damage,more than 100+ compared to loath bane dagger.So wrath just uses the dagger for it's speed and high crit,while doing most of the damage is done by wrath rather than the dagger,since on low life ST builds,you can scale wrath with multiplier,spell damage,projectile damage and attack speed.So the actual dagger passives themselves-except from than those that give crit chance- becomre very secondary,since all you need is high crit base and attack speed,in order to scale your auras.So in the end,somebody who uses a dagger with just high crit and high speed,that uses all aura passives,will end up with more DPS,than someone who uses loath bane,and goes through the intented phsycical passive.Go figure.

Actually i have quited again since late may,but i will come back at some point,as i always do.At the moment i am really enjoying dark souls 2 :D

What if ignore Vaal Pact even without Acuity?
I refund points from Vaal Pact and I think it is better without it.
Hire is a video Dom run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh89cxPhsDY&feature=youtu.be
My gear:

Passive Tree in Ranger path:

Perhaps Bino is helping me in this situation.
DPS:
8K With Melee Splash AGV DMG, 13050 single target. 8.33 hits per second for now.

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perverzniat wrote:

What if ignore Vaal Pact even without Acuity?
I refund points from Vaal Pact and I think it is better without it.
Hire is a video Dom run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh89cxPhsDY&feature=youtu.be
My gear:

Spoiler

Passive Tree in Ranger path:

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0FtQ5IEHsRLxFQEZYV1xa_GYoajxrbG60eGiT9J6koKisKLL8s4S9vMFQ74T3iPs9HBkjuTGBRR1M1VmNW6lb1X2pjQ20ZbWxwUnBWcLtw1XiufeN-WX_Ghq6H24hCjb-OipAbl9CZV5mamhObtZ2joqOmf6crpzSsZrGztMW1SLb3t9O5Prl8u9a95r46wFHBAMHFwfPC7MNtzerTftUA14bXy9h22RPbGttu29Ti9-OE51Tp_utj7BjtQfLh8-r1S_ba-WP7Cfyr_5M=

Perhaps Bino is helping me in this situation.
DPS:
8K With Melee Splash AGV DMG, 13050 single target. 8.33 hits per second for now.

Yeah reflect wull hurt you when/if you ever decide to start mapping. However your dps is pretty low still. Dom runs are cake w mightflay, so its not rly an applicable example.