Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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Poutsos wrote:

Lowrider - Yeah it's just that your dagger has low damage per hit,and low crit.It's a good spectral throw dagger but not really suitable for flicker.Other than that your level does matter as well,since in my guide,most of the extra DPS picking starts after lv80.

Relytz - sure with a crown of eyes the DPS would be higher,so would be if i had ditched some DPS passives as well.But beyond level 92 you really need to be tanky.Plus if you go crown of eyes,it is a waste to not low life to take all the advantages,DPS and propably max resists.And generally,in my opinion when you reach mid 90s,for melee, CI becomes superior to low life,cause of desync and spike damage,and you cannot risk dying.

lowlife for flicker doesnt make sense imo.
melee damage on full hp cant be taken here which is 50%more dmg. not worth losing 20%more damage just because of going lowlife, having 500 less es from chest and prolly 80all resists less cus of coe. also the more es node behind ci is way to strong. lowlife will alow u to run 2 additional auras losing a 4L to that. in ur build u could skipp ur 4L'd LS setup. but i'd still say CI > LL by far.

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Doeboy1337 wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

Lowrider - Yeah it's just that your dagger has low damage per hit,and low crit.It's a good spectral throw dagger but not really suitable for flicker.Other than that your level does matter as well,since in my guide,most of the extra DPS picking starts after lv80.

Relytz - sure with a crown of eyes the DPS would be higher,so would be if i had ditched some DPS passives as well.But beyond level 92 you really need to be tanky.Plus if you go crown of eyes,it is a waste to not low life to take all the advantages,DPS and propably max resists.And generally,in my opinion when you reach mid 90s,for melee, CI becomes superior to low life,cause of desync and spike damage,and you cannot risk dying.

lowlife for flicker doesnt make sense imo.
melee damage on full hp cant be taken here which is 50%more dmg. not worth losing 20%more damage just because of going lowlife, having 500 less es from chest and prolly 80all resists less cus of coe. also the more es node behind ci is way to strong. lowlife will alow u to run 2 additional auras losing a 4L to that. in ur build u could skipp ur 4L'd LS setup. but i'd still say CI > LL by far.

Different playstyles for different tastes.CI is definetely safer,however the damage potential of low life are rediculous,if you have mirrored gear on every spot,despite losing melee on full life gem.A friend of mine,who leveled to 100 with lowlife spectral throw,tried low life flicker with all the aura passives,and with righteous fire on(97% fire res with costant potions),he has 100K averange damage with splash and 14 attack speed,and 9K ES.I think with snapshotting of course,but still it's crazy.
For safe leveling though i do agrre that being CI is propably the better option,from level 92-93+. I don;t always use lightning strike,but it is the best for safe leveling as well.Not only gives me power charges,but instant shock/poisons/burns mobs from distance,and gives my flicker 90% more damage.You do lose clear speed for shooting first with LS,but it has the best strategic potential.I only use it if i want 100% effectiveness and safe leveling.When i am just playing around i don't use LS.
Well i have not really been playing for the 2 past months anyway.

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Doeboy1337 wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

Lowrider - Yeah it's just that your dagger has low damage per hit,and low crit.It's a good spectral throw dagger but not really suitable for flicker.Other than that your level does matter as well,since in my guide,most of the extra DPS picking starts after lv80.

Relytz - sure with a crown of eyes the DPS would be higher,so would be if i had ditched some DPS passives as well.But beyond level 92 you really need to be tanky.Plus if you go crown of eyes,it is a waste to not low life to take all the advantages,DPS and propably max resists.And generally,in my opinion when you reach mid 90s,for melee, CI becomes superior to low life,cause of desync and spike damage,and you cannot risk dying.

lowlife for flicker doesnt make sense imo.
melee damage on full hp cant be taken here which is 50%more dmg. not worth losing 20%more damage just because of going lowlife, having 500 less es from chest and prolly 80all resists less cus of coe. also the more es node behind ci is way to strong. lowlife will alow u to run 2 additional auras losing a 4L to that. in ur build u could skipp ur 4L'd LS setup. but i'd still say CI > LL by far.

I have around 500k dps

6.1k ES

Low Life Flicker

LL More dmg less ES / CI less dmg more ES

Would a Bino's Kitchen Knife be viable/be good enough with this build? or would it be recommended to use a crafted knife similar to yours? as I am quite unsure...

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G3nobee56 wrote:

Would a Bino's Kitchen Knife be viable/be good enough with this build? or would it be recommended to use a crafted knife similar to yours? as I am quite unsure...

Yeah,as long as you have acuity and decent ES on your gear,a bino's will work just fine.But without acuity,all vaal pact melee builds are in a pretty messy position.

Wouldn't a Maligaro's Virtuosity be an alternative to Atziri's Acuity? as it provides more crit? as the Acuity is way too expensive for me atm.

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G3nobee56 wrote:

Wouldn't a Maligaro's Virtuosity be an alternative to Atziri's Acuity? as it provides more crit? as the Acuity is way too expensive for me atm.

Maligs is the go to before acuity, yes

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G3nobee56 wrote:

Wouldn't a Maligaro's Virtuosity be an alternative to Atziri's Acuity? as it provides more crit? as the Acuity is way too expensive for me atm.

Yeah as LoPan said they are an alternative.However after the vaal pact nerf,unless you are ranged(spectral throw),with maligaro's and bino's you will face issues on reflect maps,vulnerability maps(when hitting a reflect mob especially),and most likely enfeeble maps,due to not being able to leech enough.
Generally,a pair of 300 ES gloves with attack speed and accuracy,in my book beats maligaro's,but of course,if you can afford such gloves,you can as well buy acuity which is the best item.Anyway,the real issues of survivability come post level 92,when you will have to only play 76-78 maps to get some XP,and you will propably have to play them with hard mods,in order to get better quantity,and increase your chances of chaining them.Up to then,maligaro's with binos will do the job,again if you have sufficient ES.

Aight, lvl 70 here. 4400 ES, maxed resistances, bino's, 80% crit chance and I die 500 times before i finally lvl up. Lightning rapes me as it interrupts flicker strike, can't really keep frenzy charges up on low lvl maps (even 66 ones). Fuck knows what I did wrong. Tree is ok, gear is ok. Build looks nice on the video, but it's gonna take literally ages for people to reach that level. I'm done with that, gonna try something that isn't so frustrating

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Joshe wrote:

Aight, lvl 70 here. 4400 ES, maxed resistances, bino's, 80% crit chance and I die 500 times before i finally lvl up. Lightning rapes me as it interrupts flicker strike, can't really keep frenzy charges up on low lvl maps (even 66 ones). Fuck knows what I did wrong. Tree is ok, gear is ok. Build looks nice on the video, but it's gonna take literally ages for people to reach that level. I'm done with that, gonna try something that isn't so frustrating

4400ES is painfully low to do maps,or flicker.There is a reason that my suggested tree for level 72-the bare minimum for respecing to CI- takes to many ES passives,and little DPS.It aims to make you tanky and play with double strike until level 80 or so were you also get your DPS passives to start flickering efficiently.Also,what colours you have on your chest?Is it 5L or 6L?Bino's is a great dagger,but if your rest of your gear is not on par,dont expect to pull an efficient CI build at level 70,especially if you go for a glass cannon skill tree.
Having said that,yeah,the so called balance changes that GGG did with vaal pact,and generally,fucked over anyone who is not over geared.Last May when i started this build,it was perfectly viable for low-mid maps,with almost completely self found gear.