1700 life is enough to finish merciless [ You can do pretty well without Kaom's Heart ] ( UPDATED )

Now try that again in Hardcore.

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Kaom's Heart is a symbol.
an icon of all that is currently broken in Path Of Exile Beta.
well, not all. most.
and HC only takes what is a problem on SC, and amplifies it tenfold.

Well I see it that you have 2 main things - HP and DPS.
You have to take both up. If you don't go some alternative as CI.
This is game where basically everything turns around 2 numbers - survivability and DPS.
In such a game you can expect that you need to up both things significantly by any way neccesary.
Taking HP nodes is just one of the consequences, you simply need to have some HP pool as well as other things like armor to achieve survivability.

Why aren't you for example complaining about elemental resistances which you also need to get from gear? Isn't it same problem that you need them? :-)

The system is in no way badly designed. It's just designed so that you need to take some HP in order to survive. Any other possibilities are just coming from alternate ways which are just bonus.

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Inexium wrote:

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Ununquadium wrote:

I finished Merciless using a CI Ranger with a 5L Darkscorn, with sub-30 resistances, and only about 1700 or so ES because of absolute crap gear. Using Frenzy, LMP Puncture, and Poison Arrow plus Bear Trap.

I just wanted to build it, you know? (And yes, the Darkscorn is a POS, but that 25% Phys->Chaos + CI *does* work)

Yeah, there were some deaths along the way for sure, and I've stopped leveling that character until I get my hands on a Lioneye's and some other stuff I want for it, but still, it's not like Lunaris 3 or Piety II were unbeatable or impossible as long as you're patient, careful, and somewhat skilled at avoiding projectiles.

So, yes, 1700 life is enough to finish Merciless, if you're being careful.

Nice!

With -30 res i can't see you dying only a few times.. maybe you were killing monsters too fast ?

And, New or old piety ?


@Mazul : I don't know about That trap yet so i did not get it.

Old Piety, I'm not sure if that's better or worse. Probably do it a lot better now that Puncture's been buffed.

I run some maps with a friend with the Ranger, too, I just have to be extremely careful; but occasionally something does desync and will kill me. I prefer glass cannon and use +movespeed as my damage mitigator... I ran pure-dex Bowzons in Diablo II for years, so this isn't that different.

Of course, I'm certainly looking forward to .11 now because I've got my fingers crossed for a desync fix, and the monster damage nerf (I really feel Crits are the problem, but anyways) plus defensive passive buffs should make Glass Cannon builds a bit more viable.

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Filousov wrote:

Well I see it that you have 2 main things - HP and DPS.
You have to take both up. If you don't go some alternative as CI.
This is game where basically everything turns around 2 numbers - survivability and DPS.
In such a game you can expect that you need to up both things significantly by any way neccesary.
Taking HP nodes is just one of the consequences, you simply need to have some HP pool as well as other things like armor to achieve survivability.

Why aren't you for example complaining about elemental resistances which you also need to get from gear? Isn't it same problem that you need them? :-)

The system is in no way badly designed. It's just designed so that you need to take some HP in order to survive. Any other possibilities are just coming from alternate ways which are just bonus.

the main problem - which GGG will fix in 0.11.0 according to Chris' announcement - is everything revolved around HP.

just like offence, survivability needs to consist of many things: armour, evasion, HP, resists.

but when you can only stack HP (then take Kaom's Heart) and never worry about armour or resists ever again, and on the other hand - when you max your resists but still die because you have too few HP (as if 1.5k is "too few") - that's one hell of a broken mechanic.

I welcome the upcoming re-balance. it will allow me to build my characters as a sum of many things, without "paying for it" because I didn't take enough "meat shield".
in fact, that's the way it should have been from day one.
better late than never I suppose.

Hi everyone.

What i can see is that all of you are coming from RPG games :) ( using the word "HP" )

I am pretty convinced that the upcoming rebalance will hurt my character because my skills are gonna be nerfed or balanced , so i am going for Piety lvl 71 today/tonight ( wherever you are in the earth )

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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Inexium wrote:

YES!

I will try it later.

Someone told me that A nother piety can be found in a higher level map ? Anyone can tell me what map is it ?

This will be interesting.

Going for the 100% lightning?



@Shrine, it's a map of the 'cages' area of Lunaris 3 with Piety's chamber and all.
She's down below doing her Crematorium/Temple thing before porting up and doing her Lunaris thing AND her Crem/Temple thing.

Ofc, she's lvl 79 mob.

Ty, No only 93% :P

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johnKeys wrote:

the main problem - which GGG will fix in 0.11.0 according to Chris' announcement - is everything revolved around HP.

just like offence, survivability needs to consist of many things: armour, evasion, HP, resists.

but when you can only stack HP (then take Kaom's Heart) and never worry about armour or resists ever again, and on the other hand - when you max your resists but still die because you have too few HP (as if 1.5k is "too few") - that's one hell of a broken mechanic.

I welcome the upcoming re-balance. it will allow me to build my characters as a sum of many things, without "paying for it" because I didn't take enough "meat shield".
in fact, that's the way it should have been from day one.
better late than never I suppose.

How to spot a noob in one message : check !

A level 93 shadow died with >9K HP (with Kaom's) in a single second vs a single boss. He was only at 51% fire resistance. Survivability isn't only about stacking HP, survivability is about HP/resists/regen and sometimes ES.

Just for a test, I fired a LA+WED+Added Fire+LMP, I was using a Blackgleam as quiver into a pack in Felsshrine with Reflect ELemental Damage. I'm level 80 (into a level 59 zone), I had low resists (around 10/20) and 3K HP : I almost killed myself.

DO you know why people are stacking HP ?
1) Survivability
2) Blood magic (keystone or gem) for the main skill
3) Auras

And fyi, check how to mitigate damage vs merciless Vaal.

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Hovergame wrote:

How to spot a noob in one message : check !

and tell me, how do I spot a disgusting, disrespectful troll?

besides being a good player, you need to be a human being as well.
show respect to your fellow gamers like I do.

and even though I checked HC ladder and saw you are ranked high, I'm not really sure about the "good player" part.
because you need to be cocky as hell to die with a ton of HP (I'm talking face-tank-Brutus kind of cocky), whereas you only need to blink for a second to die with ~2.5k HP and max resists AND Endurance Charges AND a Granite Flask. or maybe you don't have the guts to play melee to high level, like I did?

that's why GGG felt they need to change it.
that's why I think it's a very welcome change.

and going back to your "noob" comment - I feel a strong urge to wish you a 1-shot death by a white trash mob in your next map run. but I won't.
you really don't deserve any extra effort on my part.

I am not doing it until i get a 5L in this :



Then i would wear a Wanderlust.


Physical : CHECK
Fire : Check
Lightning : I can handle it.
ICE : Waiting for 5L

Until then, it's still here :



Let's hope i can make a 5L.

seeing how you're in standard league, this post is invalid, i can finish merciless with 1000 hp and -60 all resist in standard playing one-handed, anyways koam's heart is a privilege, not a requirement.

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aznsky01 wrote:

seeing how you're in standard league,

Oh? Are you a top 20 Hardcore players?