Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013. - Forum

Well, Wipes, legacy migrations. Since you dont own anything in game, you can't bitch (legally)... My point still stands. No one can steal something that isn't yours (not talking about GGG owning). If an item drops and is allocated to you for a couple seconds, all that means is that you CAN take possession of it. If you dont. It's not yours.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 17, 2012, 11:44:24 PM Banned Quote this Post
Still no answer in regards to game design. I think I've made my point quite clear. IGN: Iolar	Posted by BRavich#4397 on Dec 18, 2012, 7:14:35 AM Quote this Post
There is not much to argue about it. It´s just a bad design. Simple as that. The way it is design right now it only favors who multi box or stuff like that. Favor´s who have lower ping, etc.. If they keep the loot system like this, this gonna be a solo game. And the multi boxes still count as a solo game . . . Don´t get me wrong, i really like the game, i even support it, but this loot system is just bad. Really bad . . .	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 18, 2012, 8:27:45 AM Quote this Post
Make it like D3's loot system - as much as I hate the game that's one thing they did right.	Posted by rotan#1174 on Dec 18, 2012, 8:37:20 AM Quote this Post
" cyryc wrote: There is not much to argue about it. It´s just a bad design. Simple as that. The way it is design right now it only favors who multi box or stuff like that. Favor´s who have lower ping, etc.. If they keep the loot system like this, this gonna be a solo game. And the multi boxes still count as a solo game . . . Don´t get me wrong, i really like the game, i even support it, but this loot system is just bad. Really bad . . . Not gonna get you wrong, it’s pretty clear. You seem paranoid about some random person taking something that you imagine to be yours that you probably don’t really need. Because of this crippling paranoia, you are afraid to even meet people or earn anyone’s respect and therefore complete your self-fulfilling prophecy of “bad design”. Very often the best items in the game are crafted – crafted from white items that nobody picked up and from alteration or alchemy orbs that can be crafted from other junk that people don’t even pick up.	Posted by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012, 9:42:06 AM
" rotan wrote: Make it like D3's loot system - as much as I hate the game that's one thing they did right. I pretty much agree with this. I mean, i don´t hate D3, but it is a flawed game, but the loot system is really good for an hack and slash. This is a big thing to remember, PoE is an hack and slash game, it is not an RPG, wen i play a Witch i don´t have to play the role or something like that. Oh, all our characters are criminals, come one, dont gimme that, we are not playing this to role play the crap of it, if you role play, how you gonna role play the multi boxes are going on? I really don´t like to be a douche and ninja whore everyone on games, or kick someone who dont follow the "Summoner Code". It´s just a bad way to implement the game. Set a decent loot system,	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 18, 2012, 9:45:59 AM Quote this Post
" cyryc wrote: There is not much to argue about it. It´s just a bad design. Simple as that. The way it is design right now it only favors who multi box or stuff like that. Favor´s who have lower ping, etc.. If they keep the loot system like this, this gonna be a solo game. And the multi boxes still count as a solo game . . . Don´t get me wrong, i really like the game, i even support it, but this loot system is just bad. Really bad . . . I think rather than calling it a solo game, it might be more accurate to say a "non-cooperative" game since the option to play with others is still present, and even encouraged since the game is online only, it's not really a solo game as much as it is a competitive game actually, after reading through this thread and thinking on it a bit I believe I can understand Grinding Gear Games' stance on this, as a competitive survivalist aspect does instill a feeling of being stranded and desperate although a problem I have with that is that the game already compromises this with core RPG elements beneficial to game integrity, namely the presence of towns/encampments if the player is so needy as to scrounge everything you can from right in front of combatants who they might consider equal in power, why are the goods and provisions the NPCs have safe from this greed? of course an RPG without a stash or vendors would be lacking indeed, and so is one that forces free for all looting :p	Posted by square0#1580 on Dec 18, 2012, 9:49:03 AM Quote this Post
" SMRD wrote: Not gonna get you wrong, it’s pretty clear. You seem paranoid about some random person taking something that you imagine to be yours that you probably don’t really need. Because of this crippling paranoia, you are afraid to even meet people or earn anyone’s respect and therefore complete your self-fulfilling prophecy of “bad design”. Very often the best items in the game are crafted – crafted from white items that nobody picked up and from alteration or alchemy orbs that can be crafted from other junk that people don’t even pick up. LoL! Im not paranoid about anything, lol again ... I don´t imagine it is mine, it´s suppose to be mine, cause you know, about 2 seconds ago there was my name on it, oops there is not anymore. How is that not bad? If you want to make it a legit system, get rid of the timers. How about that? I think it´s better than the timer thing. I don´t like it, if you ask me, but i think the timer is just bad. And if they keep the timer or get rid of it the game gonna still like a solo game, even if you multi box with "friends". And the second paragraph it´s true, but you know, you need to loot that orbs my breda, but that orb with my name wans´t suppose to be mine, like you say . . . :)	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 18, 2012, 9:55:05 AM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: Because looting options are a GGG rule. You've read Chris's post. They want the players to be competitive with monsters and against each other. Kicking someone from your party can be considered competitive. If you feel that they are slowing your progress, boot em. Looting options however imposes a rule on gameplay that cannot be avoided. Even though its an option, it would be forced upon everyone who enters automatically. Where now, they can still "ninja loot" and you can kick. Currently, someone could even be someone you trust to not ninja, but should a mirror drop, they back stab you. This would not be possible with a looting option. Period. In the current game, there is NEVER a 100% possibility a player won't take something that is allocated to you, than turns to group. Thus, you can never be sure. With an option, this would not be possible. Lets say you start a guild, where everyone agrees to a set of rules, you could play as per your rules for many years. A mirror drops. Does everyone still abide by your rules? Figured I would repost this. This is the game design part. This right here. This is why there shouldn't be a loot option.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 18, 2012, 9:55:13 AM Banned Quote this Post
" square0 wrote: I think rather than calling it a solo game, it might be more accurate to say a "non-cooperative" game You are right. Way better description than solo game. Non-cooperative suits perfect. Thanks! :)	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 18, 2012, 9:57:36 AM Quote this Post