Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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iamstryker wrote:

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SMRD wrote:

Please do not take away players freedom to decide on their own how to behave. It’s one of the best things thing game has going for it.

Freedom of choice would be there with more options. There is less freedom right now. Either people put up with FFA in one way or another or they play solo. I don't see a lot of freedom there and apparently neither do the other players who are now asking for something else.

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akete wrote:

With 1000-2000 acounts online I just see perhaps max 2-3 public parties on the noticeboard. I wonder what is dicouraging players to group up...

^ This

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

#1 reason people don’t play co-op is because of Pace. The Pace is set by the loot system. So the #1 reason that people don’t play co-op is because FFA increase Pace to a point that they would rather play solo.

Lol

Edit: I suggest you read the thread.

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

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wrathmar wrote:

#1 reason people don’t play co-op is because of Pace. The Pace is set by the loot system. So the #1 reason that people don’t play co-op is because FFA increase Pace to a point that they would rather play solo.

QFT.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Lol

Edit: I suggest you read the thread.

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

Pace: People are killing things, grabbing loot and running off too fast.

You left the most vital aspects of pace out. The actual in game pace.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

Smoking is the reason I don't group. I don't want to put anyone through the misery of having to stop what they're doing every 30 mins for me to enjoy my nicotine habits :)

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wrathmar wrote:

**Results**
Updated 11/12/12 16:00 est

Option 1 – 5
Option 2 – 6
Option 3 – 4
Option 4 – 0
Option 5 – 32
Option 6 - 5
Option 7 - 7

(mix of FFA + 3 + 5) - 1

Here are the results of the group loot poll thread. Option 1 is keeping the current system and option 6 is for full FFA. 10 players total voted for those and that's out of 60 players. Option 7 chose not to vote. So out of that portion of players the vast majority would prefer a different looting option to play on.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

If you are referring to my 'Why Don't You Party?' thread then I think you have your numbers mixed up.

Just went through it, from 9 pages the results are:

Don't party cos of FFA loot = 40

Don't party due to pace = 11

Other (mostly life issues or just like to solo) = 17

I suggest you read the thread.

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lethal_papercut wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

If you are referring to my 'Why Don't You Party?' thread then I think you have your numbers mixed up.

Just went through it, from 9 pages the results are:

Don't party cos of FFA loot = 40

Don't party due to pace = 11

Other (mostly life issues or just like to solo) = 17

I suggest you read the thread.

I would prefer a thead that gives clear answers like "Would you party more with a different looting option besides FFA?" That way it could be more easily tallied.

Your thread tended to have people babble and even not really answer the question. I went through and tried to fairly count the people who legitimately cited FFA as the reason or one of the reasons they don't party and I came up with 28 people. With only 9 pages of that thread I consider 28 to be a lot. So ya I agree that Slayer might not want to point to that thread. It doesn't support the view that most people are fine with FFA.

I haven't spoken on the subject in a while, you know I think it is falling on deaf ears but I still feel strongly about loot options. Every thread about looting and partying is stacked with negativity about FFA loot and even accounting for topic bias the feedback is still significant. Look at the number of open parties, dismal, whether it's FFA loot or not GGG must realise that something needs to be done in order to encourage people to play together. With more players will come more anonymity & unless people get together in public parties there will never be an actual 'community' but just a bunch of bedroom dwellers playing solo.

Loot options take nothing away from nobody, everybody gains & I feel the game will be richer as a result. POE will be the game "that even let's you decide loot options, cool" instead of "man I love the game but I just wish the loot wasn't FFA" which it is for some. Pro FFA'ers, we don't want to take away your style of play, it will be there just the same for you so you don't lose anything but for people who don't like it that way they have the option to play their way too. EVERYBODY IS A WINNER.

Not the thread I'm talking about. The one I'm thinking of Mark responded too.