Z's **0.9.12** LS CI GR! Spec

Why not just the straight ES Shields that start with 30% block base? When you quality them you get a 36% shield with decent ES and then if you happen to roll some ES mods on it, it gets even better.

Why the switch to Whirling Blades from Shield Charge? Did you find Whirling Blades to better/more efficient?

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Jozen wrote:

Why not just the straight ES Shields that start with 30% block base? When you quality them you get a 36% shield with decent ES and then if you happen to roll some ES mods on it, it gets even better.

Why the switch to Whirling Blades from Shield Charge? Did you find Whirling Blades to better/more efficient?

Because low levels dont give u much ES as in later game. U need at least 1500 ES with CI on to make this build work with 20% evasion more or less, trust me, cus i leveled up using this build and it was a hell to get to 60's. Its a Ultra Late Game Build, almost nothing that comes in its way is useful to make u progress smoothly until u reach 40's and on. And Whirling Blades is way better the Shield charge cus u can Pass through enemies and u dont hit them and get stuck in front of them, and the damage u deal is dealt to all of them, that means, MANA MANA MANA and Freeza Burn Shock, and u can escape betwenn them =D. I never figured out why he was using SC instead of WB.

You can travel a longer distance with one shield charge than whirling blades. From distance a shield charge into a necro with heavy ES can sometimes remove it entirely. Not to mention the stun & possibility inflict status effects. Mana Leech is based on damage dealt. Linking Mana Leech to shield charge works great against extremely tough opponents when you run out of pots.

I was using whirling blades to switch it up a bit. It does have a nice flow when linked to faster attacks.

This is in fact an optimized min-max build tailored for endgame content. GGG nerfed Lightning Strike & I was determined to fixit. I had 65 points to spend after the last passive tree reset & took a chance with a totally different & foreign skill tree.

I apologize if I was not clear enough in communicating that playing a LS shadow isnt easy no matter what your spec is. I scrapped through the early levels taking whatever gear helped most. Hell I used a focus quite a bit cause of the mana & es! Idgaf! I also have a farmer mentality so I dont mind doing ledge & fellshrine runs for hours on end until I got the shield or boots or whatever it was of my gear that was lacking.

It is, however, encouraging to see people get through the tough levels & into end game. The rewards are totally worth it.

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BaggerX wrote:

I've been trying to follow this build for a little while. It looks like a really cool build, and it's been pretty fun to play. It has been a bit of a struggle lately though, mostly I think because I had no decent gear for Shadow, and I'm still trying to learn a lot of the mechanics. I'm currently in Act II of Ruthless.

This is my current build state:

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My current gear:

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Nice 5 link! You could try swapping inc criticals for added light & faster attacks for cold dmg. I would reroll that jacket so it actually gives defensive assistance. The rarity is great, but mf gear seldom offers much protection. Eventually you will want a 5 link for farming & a 5 link for core stats. It seems you are in partial farm gear which is holding you back. Keep what ya have & look to upgrade as they drop.

You are 4 nodes away from ES Delay which is one of the first of many boosts to your survivability. Drop Mental Acuity & it will be 3 nodes away.

Looks like you are going in the right direction.

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Tyranthal wrote:

Nice 5 link!

That was the one bit of really good luck I've had so far :) It started as a 2-L, 3-S, and I turned it into that 5-L with one Jeweler's and one Fusing. Weird, huh?

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Tyranthal wrote:

You could try swapping inc criticals for added light & faster attacks for cold dmg. I would reroll that jacket so it actually gives defensive assistance. The rarity is great, but mf gear seldom offers much protection. Eventually you will want a 5 link for farming & a 5 link for core stats. It seems you are in partial farm gear which is holding you back. Keep what ya have & look to upgrade as they drop.

You are 4 nodes away from ES Delay which is one of the first of many boosts to your survivability. Drop Mental Acuity & it will be 3 nodes away.

Looks like you are going in the right direction.

Ok, I'll see if I can fix the armor. I like the gem swap ideas too. Hopefully I can find some better stuff. Thanks for the help!

Glad to help. The secret weapon for this build is Culling Strike. Just check the stats above where it is linked into my armor. Again, it works on bosses & rares & hopefully other players lol.

sry iam german and dont understand all tings..

can you pls tell me what gems you use in weapons? (TE)

main attack is lightning strike gem? where to get?

thx

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Tyranthal wrote:

Glad to help. The secret weapon for this build is Culling Strike. Just check the stats above where it is linked into my armor. Again, it works on bosses & rares & hopefully other players lol.

That's good to know. I've found 2 of those already. Should I wait until I'm farther along and have 6-L armor to use it, or should I replace something else with it?

Also, I'm currently using Grace and Wrath auras, which reserve about 2/3 of my mana. Is there something else that might work better? I do have mana issues when I try to use LS more than a few shots in a row. I mostly use Shield Charge and Viper Strike, with Whirling blades as an escape. Definitely a hit-and-run build right now.

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Tyranthal wrote:

Glad to help. The secret weapon for this build is Culling Strike. Just check the stats above where it is linked into my armor. Again, it works on bosses & rares & hopefully other players lol.

Never tried culling strike so far, how does that work as a secret weapon u say so. Im at level 63 owning alone 6 men games, killing everything before ppl and getting rewards like a ninja hahahaha with only 3k dps. Dont have not even a 5 link so far cus im using LS Weapon, Elemental damage, mana leach, critical chance. Need a 5L asap to try culling strike.

I decided to come back to this build as I have faith that I can get it to work. First I have a few questions:

1) What gems would you guys recommend for both efficiency of mana and overall Damage output? I was thinking:

Crit Damage
Crit Chance
Elemental Damage
Elemental Proliferation
Lesser Projectiles

However with just damage and projectiles the mana cost is 35, which means ~10 casts before Im out. However the damage on my LS is only 911, so this amount of cost seems very inefficient (yes I know its also my terrible equipment) so I'm wondering what others think are the better gem choices?


2) I tried to get some Wake of Destruction (1-120 L damage boots) but the guy was asking 7 GCP for them which is WAY too rich for my blood right now. Other than that I havent been able to upgrade any of my items because of how slow I farm due to low damage output.

What items should I improve on for greater DPS (AKA which should I upgrade first, and what should I be looking for?)






3) I tried farming fellshrine as previously suggested but I found after a good hour of farming on Ruthless I barely got more than a chaos and a couple alchemy (no good drops whatsoever =/). Is this just bad luck or are there much better spots to farm? (remember my damage sucks =P)


I absolutely love this build but its seeming more and more like its never going to actually work due to the immense gear requirements and the what seems to be a super steep overall performance curve =(