[Camera] It's too close!

I do know the game engine and client can handle zooming all the way out... I've done so on a fairly old machine, prior to the client being more optimized. The real concern is probably that the game does not look good like that. I did however prefer a view distance that was perhaps 30% further zoomed out.

So they are stuck between making a more functional game versus a more visceral visual experience that is up to their standards.

Doing a distance analysis between the screen caps posted above:


d2 44% 36% 11%
tl2 20% 22% 5%
TQ 22% 28% 8%
D3 34% 29% 7%
POE 32% 25% 7%

Smaller means you can see more, as it's the proportion that your character takes up compared to visible area in a particular direction... north, south, screen width.

POE beats out D3 in terms of viewable area actually, which is a large surprise.

Notice how TL and TQ both significantly attenuated their north view to more closely match with south. I think this causes their viewports to look much further out.

Well I think anything is possible in the future, but for now we have to just accept that there are more important content-related updates to get out before they can spend months on polish and gameplay tweaks that everyone keeps asking for here and there.

rly u want to zoom out? try a higher resolution i personally play pn 2560 * 1600 and find that i can see enough but 1900*1600 resolution should be enough too.

Hi , yeah , I know , boring treadmill +1 post , blah blah...

Thing is, I've only been in the Beta for 3 days now and the *ONLY* thing that has motivated me enough to post feedback on the forums is the zoom level.

It needs to be further out.

Not waaay further , but definately more than it is now.
(I suggest between 10~20% further)

Currently , the feel of the game is *myopic* I literally cannot see further than 10 paces from my avatar !

I'm playing a Witch and the lack of view distance seems to really hurt ranged characters.

YES , you *should* be able to see further than you can shoot - this allows you to choose / line up your targets - just like *all* melee classes can already do.

And it's no good to have the view distance less than the aggro range of the mobs , this means you might as well have a STATIC screen and spawn waves of already aggro'd mobs around the outside edge.
(this is how the game currently plays IMO)

Screen notes : I play @ 1920x1080 on a 27" 16:9 Monitor.

Oh and as for this : "we have to just accept that there are more important content-related updates to get out before they can spend months on polish and gameplay tweaks that everyone keeps asking for here and there."

If EVERYONE (or a lot of people anyways) keep asking for something then it *IS* important!

GGG make a big point of saying that they DO pay attention to the feedback.

When it's as "popular" as this topic then it's time for them to "put their money where their mouth is" as far as I'm concerned.

As for the rest of the game , yeah looks real good ATM I've only seen a couple of minor things (not enough to actually post about)

So, please don't take this post as me "hating" on the game I'm not.

Just I can see the lack of zoom being a deal breaker for many players (myself included).

It needs attention - and SOON.

Meaning : that I appreciate it's not a "quick fix" , so you start working on it NOW to get an acceptable result further down the road.

Please don't let this most BASIC of gameplay features spoil what looks like an otherwise good game.

[MM]

P.S. Here's a question GGG should be asking : "Does *anybody* play this game NOT fully zoomed out ? If so , what % of the players is that ?" - Your answer is Right There people , Right there....

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DonCamillo wrote:

rly u want to zoom out? try a higher resolution i personally play pn 2560 * 1600 and find that i can see enough but 1900*1600 resolution should be enough too.

hahaah great resolution =D muti moniter?.

I play at 1920*1080.....I dont see a problem at this resolution....Zooming out seems quite distant, in some cases maybee too far.... No complaints here.

im at 1920x1080 res also and it is WAY To zoomed in. half the time i am amazed at how big my head is due to how close i am to my character

I'd like to add, that a static analisys of those screenshots are irrevelant.

You have to take into consideration the range of the attacks, and the speed of the entities too, to get a decent comparison.

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xxnoob wrote:

I play a ranger and I have no problems with the camera.

Someone said it depends on the resolution you're running the game, mines at 1680x1050.

I play a ranger and continuously shoot things that aren't on my screen yet. In fact, the safest way to play is take a step forward, assume there is something just off the screen and shoot at it anyway!

As a new player to the beta I would like to add to this that my first impression of the game was that I wanted to pull back the camera some and definitely tilt the angle more like the other ARPG's. Is this a deal breaker for me? I don't think so right now but maybe in the furture if it gets in the way of the gameplay.

my maximum resolution is 1600x1200, i have monitor 4:3; and playing in this resolution is impossible because refresh rate is 60 Hz, so i must play in resoulution 1280x1024 (max) or 1024x768 but character in both is to big