1.1UPDATED- ETHEREAL KNIVES CRIT & MAP GUIDE - ES TANK w/ CHAOS INOC- LVLING INFO + PASSIVES + VIDS

"

Chedric wrote:

"

Sarpenok wrote:

i've got 3 questions:
1) EK deals pfys damage, but you taking spell damage nodes, so EK deals phys damage, but increased by spell damage nodes?
2) if EK deals phys damage, may be nodes as "+50% phys damage with wands" will increase it?
3)a) there are node Mind Drinker(+2%mana leech) why not to take it if EK deals phys damage??
b) i've got life and mana leech on the belt and it doesn't work - is it ok?)

It is a "physical" spell. The damage dealt is physical (as opposed to fire or chaos), so resists don't work- but armor does.

Mind Drinker works on "Physical attack damage" not "spell damage", so it does nothing for EK because it is not an "attack".

The keywords are "Projectile, Spell", so passives that impact either of those will impact EK.

Here is the wiki entry: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ethereal_Knives

p.s. A mana leech support gem would work.

"

rangda wrote:

I am thinking of trying out this Scion (tree done out to level 67) variant of your build. Running as a Scion lets me take VP to deal with phys reflect; however I am wondering if I am wasting my time with a build that probably won't have much in the way of armor. I've never taken a phys damage character to maps so I'm not sure what to expect for phys reflect.

I'd run EK + faster proj + PCoC + mana leech + life leech. Disipline for an aura and on phys reflect maps I could switch to Determination.

Any thoughts?

"

rangda wrote:

Here a bit of a tweak to the Scion and a variant. Elemental dominon is elemental damage so not useful for EK (force of habit to grab it for a caster). And with all the str nodes on the way to VP Iron Grip is a lot of extra damage for the cost of 1 node (enough that you could roll back some spell damage and grab more ES if needed). Also Blood Drinker is only 2 nodes away from Unwavering Stance and for the 2% leech this seems worthwhile.

The variant rolls back the Intense Zeal critical cluster, saving on a bunch of int nodes. Instead it grabs the rest of the crit nodes in the shadow tree. You lose the crit multi but gain 5% crit chance and 20% mana regen and 3 nodes (seems like a worthwhile trade). With those 3 extra nodes you could grab more ES (either by Shadow or Scion), the crit chance nodes in the Witch starting area, or the aura cluster by Bloodthirst. I also grabbed Coordination; the build is going to need at least 1 +30 dex node unless you've got godly gear so +20 dex &) 3% cast speed seemed like a good idea.

"

terrex wrote:

"

rangda wrote:

Here a bit of a tweak to the Scion and a variant. Elemental dominon is elemental damage so not useful for EK (force of habit to grab it for a caster). And with all the str nodes on the way to VP Iron Grip is a lot of extra damage for the cost of 1 node (enough that you could roll back some spell damage and grab more ES if needed). Also Blood Drinker is only 2 nodes away from Unwavering Stance and for the 2% leech this seems worthwhile.

The variant rolls back the Intense Zeal critical cluster, saving on a bunch of int nodes. Instead it grabs the rest of the crit nodes in the shadow tree. You lose the crit multi but gain 5% crit chance and 20% mana regen and 3 nodes (seems like a worthwhile trade). With those 3 extra nodes you could grab more ES (either by Shadow or Scion), the crit chance nodes in the Witch starting area, or the aura cluster by Bloodthirst. I also grabbed Coordination; the build is going to need at least 1 +30 dex node unless you've got godly gear so +20 dex &) 3% cast speed seemed like a good idea.

Ahh, I don't think Iron Grip works with EK as it is for projectile based attacks and EK is a phys projectile spell. The same thing applies for blood drinker, this is for physical attacks. Other then that these builds are very nice. In my opinion Scion has the best and most efficient build with Vaal Pact + Ghost Reaver in it.

"

kahs wrote:

Hi, could you post your stats for 1.0? As well as current gear. Thanks!

"

wtznael wrote:

with a full gem support for dps, you have how much dps ?

"

MKerr wrote:

is there a life based build alternative to this?

if so could you link me a tree please