0.10.3c Patch Notes

Sounds like the patch has misfired to an extent. Open public groups, it's better because you can see your stuff easier once you focus on grabbing whatever is lit up, and you have longer to get it, so the risk is greatly reduced and less chance of ninjas. Closed friend groups, it is worse because unclaimed loot has no obvious owner.

Sounds like putting people's names back onto the loot but keeping all the other changes solves everything. I know they were clutter, but not nearly as much as Blues being named was, and those have gone now.

I liked the changes, it is much easier to read the loot drop now especially when there's a lot of it on the ground and I run around with labels on by default. Also glad blues don't get tagged anymore, i rarely pickup blues and it was kind of annoying to run over sometimes putting yourself at great risk to pickup my item and it's a blue. Definite pluses for playing public rooms. But these changes will have a negative effect on playing with a private group where you have a gentlemans agreement to leave named loot on the ground for the person to pickup even after the timer.

As a ranged character though, the bonus pickup time could use a bit more of a buff in my opinion.

Ultimately though i think the loot system should all be instanced per player. I see what you're trying to do with the hybrid approach but it's a difficult line to walk.

I like the changes as well.

My suggestion: Remove the timer all-together. That's it. Just go back to Pure FFA.

Walking the tight-rope of catering to everyone doesn't look like it's going to work with the loot system. So either cut your losses and ditch the kids (Love that movie) and choose Pure FFA, or bite the bullet and add loot options and give everyone options regarding that, such as filtering loot, looting options for parties, etc etc and just say "our vision for loot isn't going to happen" and accept it.

I would prefer the first option, personally, as I like your vision GGG and want it to be real. It's up to you to make the hard decisions in making it real.

Edit: Just know, I will support it, and I trust there are many others like me.

Whatever you decide, the game will live and thrive.

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Undon3 wrote:

GGG, stop trying to "fix" the loot system. Just put options for the loot system, so the party leader can choose, and let people play THEIR WAY. Everybody imagines Wraeclast their own way, games are about imagination. Some imagine the loot FFA, some allocated. Removing the names from the drops was plain stupid, and others gave you the reasons before, in parties, friends used to tell people "X orb dropped for you, trade me for it" and such.

+1000

loot ninja concept will piss off a lot of players from playing POE.

maybe those nonjas don't care.

but What about you, GGG? Do you care for those who just want a fair game?

I was against the change until i actually played it.

With no names on items, it does indeed balance the game towards a more FFA loot system. In no-ninja parties (not by name, but player type) with the old system, people would still wait around a named drop for that person to pick it up. Now with out names, i see more scrambling.

No one waits around for named drops now. Either you get it when it drops for you or someone will snag it.

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Rufus82 wrote:

Loot Options:

1) Standard (as it was minus blues on timers)
Private groups, +50% items per new memeber.
Public groups, +60%

2) "Instanced" Loot (endless timer)
Private groups, +25%
Public groups, +35%

3) FFA
Private groups, +65%
Public groups, +75%

Simply put, add an incentive to play public FFA. Give option for casual mode that is less rewarding. Leave option to keep current mode (with names) that has same mechanics in private, but a little better in public games.

How dumb a change.

Why does there have to be incentives for FFA?

one good thing about a small company is that, it's easier to shift direction.

Please utilize that, and see the players' needs fit.

POE is such a good game except its shitty loot system

I like that the timer was increased, but perhaps instead of increasing the base time so much, increase the bonus of the duration for distance. Also, instead of taking out the names, make it an option for the names to be there. My screen brightness is a bit derpy, and, not whining just stating, lost an exalted because didn't know it was mine. That's my feedback.

Good changes.