[0.11.2] THE BEST DW Simple Tanky High Dps Hybrid Cleave GUIDE-7 auras/30kDPS/5.5kHP/37kArm

@zakariusqc
Ye playing without US is kinda annoying but for those 4 points i have at least more life and thats better for me at now.
Hard to explain for your question for axe/sword. They are pretty similar.. I need to aggre with "axe are slower but hit harder". But yea sword nodes seems better, so 350 dps axe vs 350 dps sword. Sword will win. Hope i helped.

Hi Sebash,

I was told since the latest patch, pure life HP has become less important making Armor much more valuable. Is this true? And if so, would the "Leather and Steel" passive just to the right of "Acceleration" near the beginning of the Duelist tree be a good option?

With IR, +24% armor and evasion seems like a big amount, and only requires 2 more points. Plus the no movement penalty is nice. What do you think? If you were to take it what would you remove?

PS - is this considered an HC build?

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Sebash6 wrote:

@zakariusqc
Ye playing without US is kinda annoying but for those 4 points i have at least more life and thats better for me at now.
Hard to explain for your question for axe/sword. They are pretty similar.. I need to aggre with "axe are slower but hit harder". But yea sword nodes seems better, so 350 dps axe vs 350 dps sword. Sword will win. Hope i helped.

thing is axe is suposed to be able to roll higther phy dps then sword.sword bonus are accuracy but axe have no bonus like that but just higther dps.i guess axe are easier and can roll higther then sword overall.that why im wondering if that higther dps can be better even if we lost some stats from passive.offcourse if both have same dps sword will win but if axe are easier to roll hight dps,like a 350 sword but equivalent for axe is 370,would this 20 phy dps from weapon be enought to compensate from passive lost and even be better?hard to know :( im also not sure how weapon dps is calculated,the 2 sword i would use have base dps of 61 and 63 but axe base dps is 68,does this make a hudge difference for the end-game weapon dps?

both weapon are nice but i feel using sword that have the lowest weapon dps because it give accuracy bonus that isnt usefull for me because of RT is a waste and i should use the higthest 1hand dps that is axe.passive is the only problem curently...dunno if it make sword better due to higther passive bonus lol.

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spyroll wrote:

Hi Sebash,

I was told since the latest patch, pure life HP has become less important making Armor much more valuable. Is this true? And if so, would the "Leather and Steel" passive just to the right of "Acceleration" near the beginning of the Duelist tree be a good option?

With IR, +24% armor and evasion seems like a big amount, and only requires 2 more points. Plus the no movement penalty is nice. What do you think? If you were to take it what would you remove?

PS - is this considered an HC build?

imo life is still very very important,mabey even more then before.yes trash mobs are easier and you need less life and more armor but....boss still hit for insane amount and now that we have less life,they are even stronger then before and armor wont help for that.its also harder to stack higther life because of life nods nerf.leather and steel is only 2 point so its not to hard to get.you could drop 2x6% life but like i said,armor wont really help you again boss that are the real problem currently

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spyroll wrote:

Hi Sebash,

I was told since the latest patch, pure life HP has become less important making Armor much more valuable. Is this true? And if so, would the "Leather and Steel" passive just to the right of "Acceleration" near the beginning of the Duelist tree be a good option?

With IR, +24% armor and evasion seems like a big amount, and only requires 2 more points. Plus the no movement penalty is nice. What do you think? If you were to take it what would you remove?

PS - is this considered an HC build?

-Kinda aggre but you still need some life to avoid double reflect, elemental dmg mobs like piety, fireball boss from crematoriom map etc. Armour won't save u from ele dmg, so thats the problem that u can't go low life.
-And yes Leather and steel is very good node, i respeced out of it only to test those new axe nodes. Gonna pick it back when i lvl up.

This build can be used on HC, cuz of high hp pool + armour. However you will need good gear for it. We can't have koams so we need high hp/armour/eva gear.



@zakariusqc If you wanna roll axe, try with Siege Axe. Skip swords. I said they are similar but yes its harded to roll with high phys dmg than on axe.
And about dps, high physical damage is better if u have a lot of increased dmg nodes.
Its scalling very well. So i would go for axe with higher dps and hit harder.

ok thx a lot seba,axe it is then :) anyway if i cant find good one or i want to test sword with the sword of my main when the 4 month will end,its only 7point to mouve so wont be a problem.

I am only lvl 37 but so far I have to say this build is awesome and feels extremely over powered. Im in a2 cruel and so far im just breathing through the content and one shotting all the whites, while face tanking the bosses.

1.1k Dual strike and 800 Cleave dps, with 1.2k life and 57% reduction from armor... crazy.

Having played a bit in in standard, and just tried a couple of maps before taking break (with summoner), I came back at random just hours before the patch and went with this build in Anarchy.

I have dropped the 6 points to get Thick Skin and just got to level 52 while picking up the health nodes in the templar area.

Playing self found, the game became harder through Act 2 cruel, but nothing that some decoy totems and running silly has not solved. At the end of the act I picked up Iron Reflexes and Unwavering Stance, and it feels like the game became a bit easier at that point. Or maybe I am just more used to not being quite as silly as in Normal.

I guess merciless will be a pain, but I think this build is quite good for starting at scratch, as one can at least swap easily between two weapon types, making finding a decent weapon easier.

Compared to the above poster, I have a bit more life and less damage. And 15 levels more. Oh well :) That is the rewards for using blue boots with cold resistance and armor bonus to get 4-links, and using rarity and quantity supports.

Thanks for a very nice guide, and a good build.

Edit: Iron Reflexes, not Grip :)

i just realise something today.not having unwevering stance is annoying but afterall,its going to be better.first you keep your 5% evasion.with my 27% chance to block,that evasion is like if i had 32%.also,enfeeble increase the chance that monster miss you.when you have unwevering stance ,you cant evade monster anymore,that make enfeeble less effective and a lost in survavibility(i guess the -accuracy from enfeeble is based on your evasion so since we only have 5% evasion,it wont make a hudge diff....probably like 2-3% more chance to evade...if it worth like that im wondering if 20% qual worth it or not).like seba said.you can use those point for more life,again,increase in survavibility.


and between bling,did you just say you took iron grip for this build?iron grip is to apply dmg bonus from str to projectile....if you use cleave/dual strike,this isnt projectile and iron grip wont do anything.iron grip is for ranged build

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zakariusqc wrote:

and between bling,did you just say you took iron grip for this build?iron grip is to apply dmg bonus from str to projectile....if you use cleave/dual strike,this isnt projectile and iron grip wont do anything.iron grip is for ranged build

Luckily I only messed up while making the post, not while picking the passive. It is Iron Reflexes, of course :)

Thanks for noticing that little error, I edited my post.

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Bingeling wrote:

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zakariusqc wrote:

and between bling,did you just say you took iron grip for this build?iron grip is to apply dmg bonus from str to projectile....if you use cleave/dual strike,this isnt projectile and iron grip wont do anything.iron grip is for ranged build

Luckily I only messed up while making the post, not while picking the passive. It is Iron Reflexes, of course :)

Thanks for noticing that little error, I edited my post.

lol yea,iron reflexe,that another story.yes iron reflexe do a hudge difference.it help a lot.i usualy pick it in really early game.