[Version 0.10.7] gh0un´s Point Blank, Rain of Arrows Bowrauder

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gh0un wrote:
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Okanitu wrote:
I had actually made my own Marauder 7 aura RoA spec prior to finding this thread, and it's interesting how we came to the same conclusion, with fairly different specs.

Here is mine
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAdwCcQSzBS0OrRNbFCAUTRjbGS4aOBv6IWAl3yftKS4ppTIJMn4yiTa6Otg64TwtPfxAoEOcSn1N2E3jUEdQUFRJVdZW-lcNV-JYY1ivWfNbr18_YEthIWOnZOdnoG6qcLt0QXTtdPF253fleA16uHrvfLiDOITvh3aI8Yx2jM-QVZ65ns2iAKQZpMKmV6cwp4SpbqxZrKquk7Xytz653b6KwBrE9sauxtjSIdSP2WHdDd1G4urnUudj7DjvDu9O73zwH_Iv8kXynPPd9kj22ve-_E78xf4K_o8=


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I had Inner focus in there originally, and the overall bonuses for the 8 passives came to be as such:
3% more IAS and 1% MS (For Haste, still considering between Haste and Vitality)
14% More armor from Determination
7% more resists and 1% more max res
30ish+ max light damage w/ wrath
20ish+ max fire damage w/ anger
10% more cold damage from physical w/ Hatred
340 more Evasion


Pretty stout.

But I took out the 8 passives, and was able to pick up 28% more life, 30% more Weapon Elemental Damage, and 15% IAS.



My dilemma currently is getting the right colors.

I use Kaoms + 6L Lionseye


So for RoA I would LIKE to use RoA + Conc + Added Fire + WED + Life Leech + Blood Magic

The issue there is Im trying to get GRRRRB on a bow. I do not believe that's possible.

My question to you, would be whats the best possible/doable color combination on a 6L Bow for RoA?

And also...how do you manage your maps without LL or LGoH on your RoA link anyways?


Getting the right colours is possible, but 5 off-colours will take a lot of chromatics... 500-1000 chromatics probably.
I am currently also using a 5 off-colour link (on a chest though, there it is a 4 off-colour), and i think i will keep it that way if i switch to kaoms.
I dont really think i will switch to kaoms anymore, because i am fairly certain that i can reach 7k life even without kaoms and with currently 6k i already feel like it is almost impossible to die.

As for lioneyes, i wont get that either.
The best part of lioneyes is the "enemies cannot evade attacks", but since RoA cannot miss anyways, the best bow is an imperial with high phys, critchance, critmult, attackspeed.
That bow kicks lioneyes ass when it comes to damage.
If GGG decides that RoA´s mechanic of always hitting is a bug and NOT a feature, then lioneyes is pretty much the only bow you can get on almost any bow build.
I think something is seriously wrong with hit chance in this game, no one is bothering with accuracy builds, because they plain suck, and with lioneye in the game, they suck even harder.
In a game that dishes out so much damage, skilling inefficient accuracy nodes instead of life or weapon elemental damage sounds like a terrible plan.
Thats why everyone is going for resolute technique builds, spells, or in my case an attack that cannot miss by default.

As for how i am healing myself, vitality instead of haste, and my first flask is usually enough to cover all my life problems.
If i take some burst damage, one of my instant life flasks is generally enough.
I did a lvl 76 reflect eledmg map + no lifereg map the other day (i know i should have recorded it).
For that map, i exchanged added fire with lifeleech (from my second weapon slot) and just shot everything down from very far away, and i got through without any issues.
I did record another map, i think it was 73 or 74, it had temporal chains, ele reflect and 50% slower lifereg, i did record that one. I did not even bother with lifeleech for that one.
I will upload that one today.

If you decide that the healing is enough without lifeleech, you can go for 4 off-colours on the bow.
Instead of lifeleech you can go for faster attacks.
That should be fairly easy to create (100-300 chromatics).
Btw i dont really know how uniques behave when it comes to colours on sockets, do they also favour the colour of their main attribute? That might not be the case at all.



I do not disagree with you on the Lionseye vs Imperial w/ crit, but only under highly specific circumstances.

Namely, your build is a crit build, yes or no? Mine is no. Could I benefit, ever-so-slightly from some crit on an imperial bow? Sure.

That RoA doesnt miss. Well, Mark is saying it does? And if he says it does, but it really doesnt, expect a fix?

My Lionseye is 6L - This here is the main reason. In order to get a better bow than a 6L Lionseye, I'd need a perf Phys rolled Imperial, with high crit....potentially a WED% roll...AND then I'd need to make it 6L. Since we are talking ENDGAME here, I'm not complaining. Just saying it may not be anytime soon for the pearly gates to open and such a bow to make itself available. Till then, Lionseye it is.


Also, Vitality you say? I watched your Piety Video, cool stuff btw. But what if you had slotted Life Leech? I'd argue that you'd not have had to go into town to refill your potions, and would have leeched just fine off of her. Your HP tends to go up and down rather wildly too in your map runs.


And if Im not mistaken, isnt your chest 3 ON colors, not 1? Its RRRBBG on an Armor base, so thats actually quite easy.

Im trying to go GRRRRB or GRRRBB, on a dex based item. And as it turns out, yes, Lionseye performs just like a regular bow - has a tendancy to roll a ton of greens. I've gone through 360 thus far with no luck, going to be buying another 300-600.




Also, how are you planning on running with 6k health without Kaoms? I did a build comparison, and it turns out you only have 10% more Max life than I do.

And lastly, your Int/Dex figures are fairly low. An Imperial bow will be 212 Dex, and max Wrath/Purity/Hatred are 151 if I remember correctly, how are you reaching these figures?

In my case, I opted for Astramentis. I found that it's the only way with the build I made to reach both numbers without sacraficing a bunch of passives nodes to get them.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
I did just notice the dex on your gloves, plus of course the all attributes from your amulet. That covers the dex req of Imperial bow.

Does not cover the 151 req of max lvl auras though if Im not mistaken.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
Dex and int is not an issue really. Ill post the attribute values in the OP in a few hours.
The piety video has only 5 auras running, the video is outdated (look at that life in the video).
Without the topaz flask, piety can stack up triple shock in a matter of seconds if you are unlucky, not worth taking the risk, i rather refill the topaz.
I could switch added fire for the lifeleech and then stack up topaz only, but i got all portals left usually, so whatever.
Even with the topaz i get shocked once sometimes (the duration is about 1 second).

I pretty much already am at 6k life right now, one more level and i will be above 6050 or something like that.

About the colours, i was talking from the bow perspective.
I have one green gem (RoA), on a bow that would equal to 5 off-colours.
On the chest its 3 off-colours which is quite easy (mistyped 4 instead of 3, sorry about that).

I will upload a few recent videos today or tomorrow.
Btw i always have lifeleech in my second weapon slot on me.
If i face something insanely dangerous, i can always opt to switch that in, but so far the only time i switch lifeleech in is if i face a cinder elemental rare on a lvl 76+ map that has the purity aura, that guy takes very little dmg (cinder elementals have high fire resist already, + purity and you are basically looking at zero dmg from your fire department) so i need that lifeleech to sustain me through the encounter.
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
Ok, I see what you're saying about your bow, thats not quite the same however

I've got a couple pure evasion 4L's with 1 green as well. Theres much fewer color combinations as a 4L than in a 6L, so theres a big difference between rolling 1G on 4 sockets than on 6.

I'm kind of considering trading in the Kaoms and getting a rockin' 6L to make it easier.


If I do that, I'll have a 6L Lionseye freed up for.....6L Frenzy perhaps? Idk if thats completely necessary for this build though.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
Okanitu, i know your feel, im 800 Chromatics in though and only want RRRBGG :D

@build: Cool videos, but not enough HP / Survivability for HC :(
My Static Strike Marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211370
Our Map Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/339977/page/1

Avoid: BKR, apinkpwny
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Okanitu wrote:
Ok, I see what you're saying about your bow, thats not quite the same however

I've got a couple pure evasion 4L's with 1 green as well. Theres much fewer color combinations as a 4L than in a 6L, so theres a big difference between rolling 1G on 4 sockets than on 6.

I'm kind of considering trading in the Kaoms and getting a rockin' 6L to make it easier.


If I do that, I'll have a 6L Lionseye freed up for.....6L Frenzy perhaps? Idk if thats completely necessary for this build though.


You still misunderstood.
Was talking about switching to kaoms and usage of a 6L bow with 1 green gem.
If i were to switch to kaoms, i would have to get 5 off-colours on the bow.

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If I do that, I'll have a 6L Lionseye freed up for.....6L Frenzy perhaps? Idk if thats completely necessary for this build though.


If you do it that way, you can do what i have in mind for the second 6L slot.
20% critchance, 20% added lightning, critdmg, 20% elemental profileration, faster attacks, 20% frenzy.
Even with no basecrit, you can reach a very high % chance to shock your enemies with quality critchance, ele prof and added lightning.
If its not fast enough, add conductivity curse (recurse something else after triple shock).

If you encounter a pack of champion cinder elementals (the bane of this build) you curse them with conductivity, start shooting at them with this frenzy, and in a matter of seconds they will all be triple shocked. Proceed to kill them with RoA.
Cinder elementals (on lvl 75+ maps) are the only enemy type that i cant faceroll in a matter of seconds. With this they should become a joke.

Alternatively you can use the ultimate flame totem shenanigan.
Flame totem + faster casting + gmp + lmp + knockback + pierce.
That totem will basically be impenetrable by any melee type, including cinder elementals.
You could do chain instead of pierce, but i dont know how knockback behaves with chain (they might be knockbacked into all kinds of directions, making it impossible to kill them efficiently).
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 11:37:42 AM
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gh0un wrote:
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Okanitu wrote:
Ok, I see what you're saying about your bow, thats not quite the same however

I've got a couple pure evasion 4L's with 1 green as well. Theres much fewer color combinations as a 4L than in a 6L, so theres a big difference between rolling 1G on 4 sockets than on 6.

I'm kind of considering trading in the Kaoms and getting a rockin' 6L to make it easier.


If I do that, I'll have a 6L Lionseye freed up for.....6L Frenzy perhaps? Idk if thats completely necessary for this build though.


You still misunderstood.
Was talking about switching to kaoms and usage of a 6L bow with 1 green gem.
If i were to switch to kaoms, i would have to get 5 off-colours on the bow.

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If I do that, I'll have a 6L Lionseye freed up for.....6L Frenzy perhaps? Idk if thats completely necessary for this build though.


If you do it that way, you can do what i have in mind for the second 6L slot.
20% critchance, 20% added lightning, critdmg, 20% elemental profileration, faster attacks, 20% frenzy.
Even with no basecrit, you can reach a very high % chance to shock your enemies with quality critchance, ele prof and added lightning.
If its not fast enough, add conductivity curse (recurse something else after triple shock).

If you encounter a pack of champion cinder elementals (the bane of this build) you curse them with conductivity, start shooting at them with this frenzy, and in a matter of seconds they will all be triple shocked. Proceed to kill them with RoA.
Cinder elementals (on lvl 75+ maps) are the only enemy type that i cant faceroll in a matter of seconds. With this they should become a joke.

Alternatively you can use the ultimate flame totem shenanigan.
Flame totem + faster casting + gmp + lmp + knockback + pierce.
That totem will basically be impenetrable by any melee type, including cinder elementals.
You could do chain instead of pierce, but i dont know how knockback behaves with chain (they might be knockbacked into all kinds of directions, making it impossible to kill them efficiently).


No no, you're misunderstanding that I misunderstood =P

What Im saying, is that you cannot compare the difficulty of getting 1 green on a 4L vs 1 green on a 6L, that was all :)

Im not entirely sure its possible, all truth be told. I did a little research after spending 360 chroms, and like the poster before me, most are going through about 1100-2000 Just to get GGRRBB, and you and I are wanting ONE green, not two.

The idea behind Frenzy...thats interesting. I was originally thinking about the traditional freny links for more damage, but since RoA's damage will be extremely high to begin with, thats not half bad. I admit I've never tried these totem shinanagans, so it's hard to speak on that specifically. The only totem link I ever used was Skele totems as LA, which complimented it well. I know that would as much with this build, so perhaps the Flame Spray idea.


Out of curiosity, what do you think about the differences in our builds overall (passives)?
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
hey i just respecced from LA archer to this build, lost 500 dps according to the stats, gained about 800hp..

but i cant even farm docks now the mobs are destroying me x.x

2.8k hp.. 5 link chest with



kinda feeling lame cuz i spent all the moeny i have made into regrets and now im getting owned lol

i am not yet running vitality because i dont have a slot for blood magic on my armor, is that my problem? i guess my armor is also low
but my dps according to the stats is 2.2k with ROA at 75% accuracy or w/e

shud i swap out life leech for blood magic so i can get the extra auras?
also, according to the stats my dps is higher with my ele bow than a physical bow with slightly less stats, but i dont see ROA dps beign affected when i put in the added fire gem, is this hidden?

should i be able to pull like 20 mobs at once to roa them?

thanks in advance!

and POEvenator i actually was using ur LA build before lol, i was owning docks but i was getting owned by lots of high hitting mobs so i thought id swap over

QUESTION: does point blank damage count from where you were when you shot the arrow, or where you are when it lands??
Last edited by copasetic on Mar 19, 2013, 1:06:06 PM
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Okanitu wrote:


What Im saying, is that you cannot compare the difficulty of getting 1 green on a 4L vs 1 green on a 6L, that was all :)


And i never said that.
Dont know why you keep herping on the 4L when i never said anything about a 4L.

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copasetic wrote:
hey i just respecced from LA archer to this build, lost 500 dps according to the stats, gained about 800hp..

but i cant even farm docks now the mobs are destroying me x.x

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2.8k hp.. 5 link chest with



kinda feeling lame cuz i spent all the moeny i have made into regrets and now im getting owned lol

i am not yet running vitality because i dont have a slot for blood magic on my armor, is that my problem? i guess my armor is also low
but my dps according to the stats is 2.2k with ROA at 75% accuracy or w/e

shud i swap out life leech for blood magic so i can get the extra auras?
also, according to the stats my dps is higher with my ele bow than a physical bow with slightly less stats, but i dont see ROA dps beign affected when i put in the added fire gem, is this hidden?

should i be able to pull like 20 mobs at once to roa them?

thanks in advance!

and POEvenator i actually was using ur LA build before lol, i was owning docks but i was getting owned by lots of high hitting mobs so i thought id swap over

QUESTION: does point blank damage count from where you were when you shot the arrow, or where you are when it lands??


You got the wrong bow. An elemental dmg bow does not work well with blackgleam, added fire, iron grip, hatred nor RoA physical damage increase.
Almost nothing this build utilizes works well with an elemental dmg bow.
You only got a little bit elemental damage and thats it.
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 1:20:27 PM
i also have this bow



when i put it on, the stats show it as slightly less dmg

is it cuz its a craptastic now? or because the added fire dmg does not show on the stats?

am i just getting confused by the DPS shown?

thanks for the speedy reply =D i am actually in love with the build, just having trouble making it work

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