[Version 0.10.7] gh0un´s Point Blank, Rain of Arrows Bowrauder

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copasetic wrote:
i also have this bow



when i put it on, the stats show it as slightly less dmg

is it cuz its a craptastic now? or because the added fire dmg does not show on the stats?

am i just getting confused by the DPS shown?

thanks for the speedy reply =D i am actually in love with the build, just having trouble making it work


If you say the added fire damage doesnt show up in the charscreen, then my guess is you are looking at the default attack instead of RoA.
This would also explain why the other bow shows slightly more damage (because it has slightly more elemental, and that show up on the default attack).
Your physical bow isnt that great either though.

Added fire shows up on the charscreen just fine, you just have to make sure that you look at RoA, not the default attack.
The only thing that does NOT show up on the charscreen is point blank.
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 2:52:47 PM
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gh0un wrote:
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Okanitu wrote:


What Im saying, is that you cannot compare the difficulty of getting 1 green on a 4L vs 1 green on a 6L, that was all :)


And i never said that.
Dont know why you keep herping on the 4L when i never said anything about a 4L.

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copasetic wrote:
hey i just respecced from LA archer to this build, lost 500 dps according to the stats, gained about 800hp..

but i cant even farm docks now the mobs are destroying me x.x

Spoiler
2.8k hp.. 5 link chest with



kinda feeling lame cuz i spent all the moeny i have made into regrets and now im getting owned lol

i am not yet running vitality because i dont have a slot for blood magic on my armor, is that my problem? i guess my armor is also low
but my dps according to the stats is 2.2k with ROA at 75% accuracy or w/e

shud i swap out life leech for blood magic so i can get the extra auras?
also, according to the stats my dps is higher with my ele bow than a physical bow with slightly less stats, but i dont see ROA dps beign affected when i put in the added fire gem, is this hidden?

should i be able to pull like 20 mobs at once to roa them?

thanks in advance!

and POEvenator i actually was using ur LA build before lol, i was owning docks but i was getting owned by lots of high hitting mobs so i thought id swap over

QUESTION: does point blank damage count from where you were when you shot the arrow, or where you are when it lands??



You got the wrong bow. An elemental dmg bow does not work well with blackgleam, added fire, iron grip, hatred nor RoA physical damage increase.
Almost nothing this build utilizes works well with an elemental dmg bow.
You only got a little bit elemental damage and thats it.


You did indeed reference your own bow as a 1 on 3 off combo, as a point of reference for being able to get only 1 "on" on a dex based item. It's in lettering. Not sure why you'd A) Deny it, and B) Argue it.

Either way, no reason to be a primodonna, dont muss and fuss over the small details, I was trying to have an intelligent coversion about the likelihood of getting GGBBRR or even GRRRBB with you. So Im not the one "herpin".

If you wish to continue an intelligent conversation about the builds Im here, but Im not particularly interesting in arguing silly semantics and whos-misunderstanding-who's.

Cool?

Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
lets all be friends and donate me a better bow as now 10k people know how bad mine is.
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You did indeed reference your own bow as a 1 on 3 off combo, as a point of reference for being able to get only 1 "on" on a dex based item. It's in lettering. Not sure why you'd A) Deny it, and B) Argue it.


This is what i wrote:
"I am currently also using a 5 off-colour link (on a chest though, there it is a 3 off-colour), and i think i will keep it that way if i switch to kaoms."

I wonder how a 5 off-colour link fits into a 4L.
I will try to explain one last time what i tried to say, because you keep misinterpreting it.
If i were to switch to a 6L bow (because i switch to kaoms), i would have to put the 6L stuff i have currently in my chest, into that 6L bow.
Since i have a single green gem, that makes it a 5 off-colour link (in the chest its a 3 off colour link).
That will cost about 500-1000 chromatics. Go check the post again and realize that this is what i meant.

There is no reason for me to deny anything, you just misunderstood what i tried to say.
Even if i actually meant what you had misunderstood, there still would be no reason to deny it, because what you are suggesting doesnt actually make sense (5 off colours dont fit into a 4L).
Im just telling you that you misunderstood the post.

I told you in the first post that it would take about 1000 chromatics to get 5 off colours onto a 6L.
Dont know how you interpret that as 3 off-colours onto a 4L.
Dont wanna sound rude, but you lack reading comprehension.

Here is how i got to 500-1000 chromatics.
If we go by the assumption that off-colours have a 25% chance to appear, and the main colour has a 50% chance to appear, then the calculation is as follows:
0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.5 = 0.000488
That would mean it costs about 2000 chromatics on average.
This does not take into account that the same configuration cannot appear twice in a row, so i just cut that value in half for a rough estimation.
Whether 25% is the correct value (for off-colours) or if it is even less than that, i cant know that.
If it is even lower than 25%, then it could very well take 2000-5000 chromatics.
No one knows for sure how the colour mechanic works in PoE, so take that with a grain of salt.
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 4:06:55 PM
Hey, do you think you could a section for builds based on different points in character development?

Like:
20 pts
40 pts
60 pts
...
So people know what to prioritize first, etc?
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InstantKill wrote:
Hey, do you think you could a section for builds based on different points in character development?

Like:
20 pts
40 pts
60 pts
...
So people know what to prioritize first, etc?



Sure. I´ll do that sometime later.
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gh0un wrote:
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You did indeed reference your own bow as a 1 on 3 off combo, as a point of reference for being able to get only 1 "on" on a dex based item. It's in lettering. Not sure why you'd A) Deny it, and B) Argue it.


This is what i wrote:
"I am currently also using a 5 off-colour link (on a chest though, there it is a 3 off-colour), and i think i will keep it that way if i switch to kaoms."

I wonder how a 5 off-colour link fits into a 4L.
I will try to explain one last time what i tried to say, because you keep misinterpreting it.
If i were to switch to a 6L bow (because i switch to kaoms), i would have to put the 6L stuff i have currently in my chest, into that 6L bow.
Since i have a single green gem, that makes it a 5 off-colour link (in the chest its a 3 off colour link).
That will cost about 500-1000 chromatics. Go check the post again and realize that this is what i meant.

There is no reason for me to deny anything, you just misunderstood what i tried to say.
Even if i actually meant what you had misunderstood, there still would be no reason to deny it, because what you are suggesting doesnt actually make sense (5 off colours dont fit into a 4L).
Im just telling you that you misunderstood the post.

I told you in the first post that it would take about 1000 chromatics to get 5 off colours onto a 6L.
Dont know how you interpret that as 3 off-colours onto a 4L.
Dont wanna sound rude, but you lack reading comprehension.

Here is how i got to 500-1000 chromatics.
If we go by the assumption that off-colours have a 25% chance to appear, and the main colour has a 50% chance to appear, then the calculation is as follows:
0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.5 = 0.000488
That would mean it costs about 2000 chromatics on average.
This does not take into account that the same configuration cannot appear twice in a row, so i just cut that value in half for a rough estimation.
Whether 25% is the correct value (for off-colours) or if it is even less than that, i cant know that.
If it is even lower than 25%, then it could very well take 2000-5000 chromatics.
No one knows for sure how the colour mechanic works in PoE, so take that with a grain of salt.


Exactly, and then I pointed out that in fact you did not have 5 off-colors on your armor, since it was a armor based. To which you replied.

"About the colours, i was talking from the bow perspective.
I have one green gem (RoA), on a bow that would equal to 5 off-colours.
On the chest its 3 off-colours which is quite easy (mistyped 4 instead of 3, sorry about that)"

Hence the reference to bows. Nothing more, nothing less. Seem's we're both misunderstanding here. Not really debate worthy imo. The only point I was making is that with your current bow 1 on 3 off isnt bad. And that also I agree that if you changed your chest into a bow, it would indeed be 1 on, 5 off. BUT that it more than likely isnt possible. It is not my reading comprehension failing here. Perhaps a miscommunication via "teh intrawebs".

As far as your math is concerned, I can neither confirm or deny those figures. Only that another thread has referenced a chance for the main color to be as high as .9, I'll see if I can re-find it, because while it seems pretty outlandish, the rest of the explainations seemed to make sense at the time.

I'm pretty deeply considering grabbing a 6L, as I do not believe I can get a 1 on, 5 off-color bow. And if I got 2 on, that would mean slotting Faster Attacks, which isnt bad....but losing One of either WED/Conc/Added Fire...which doesnt seem a fair trade.


I will miss the extreme health and regen though. Idk, not entirely sure just yet.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
Last edited by Okanitu on Mar 19, 2013, 4:44:44 PM
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Okanitu wrote:
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gh0un wrote:
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You did indeed reference your own bow as a 1 on 3 off combo, as a point of reference for being able to get only 1 "on" on a dex based item. It's in lettering. Not sure why you'd A) Deny it, and B) Argue it.


This is what i wrote:
"I am currently also using a 5 off-colour link (on a chest though, there it is a 3 off-colour), and i think i will keep it that way if i switch to kaoms."

I wonder how a 5 off-colour link fits into a 4L.
I will try to explain one last time what i tried to say, because you keep misinterpreting it.
If i were to switch to a 6L bow (because i switch to kaoms), i would have to put the 6L stuff i have currently in my chest, into that 6L bow.
Since i have a single green gem, that makes it a 5 off-colour link (in the chest its a 3 off colour link).
That will cost about 500-1000 chromatics. Go check the post again and realize that this is what i meant.

There is no reason for me to deny anything, you just misunderstood what i tried to say.
Even if i actually meant what you had misunderstood, there still would be no reason to deny it, because what you are suggesting doesnt actually make sense (5 off colours dont fit into a 4L).
Im just telling you that you misunderstood the post.

I told you in the first post that it would take about 1000 chromatics to get 5 off colours onto a 6L.
Dont know how you interpret that as 3 off-colours onto a 4L.
Dont wanna sound rude, but you lack reading comprehension.

Here is how i got to 500-1000 chromatics.
If we go by the assumption that off-colours have a 25% chance to appear, and the main colour has a 50% chance to appear, then the calculation is as follows:
0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.5 = 0.000488
That would mean it costs about 2000 chromatics on average.
This does not take into account that the same configuration cannot appear twice in a row, so i just cut that value in half for a rough estimation.
Whether 25% is the correct value (for off-colours) or if it is even less than that, i cant know that.
If it is even lower than 25%, then it could very well take 2000-5000 chromatics.
No one knows for sure how the colour mechanic works in PoE, so take that with a grain of salt.


The only point I was making is that with your current bow 1 on 3 off isnt bad.


And that had no relevance at all to the discussion at hand, you bringing it up one last time doesnt make it any more relevant.
You keep herping on something that isnt there. Refrain from posting about this in here, its getting annoying and derails the thead for no other reason other than you being incapable of accepting that you misunderstood something and then made conclusions about something entirely different that had no relevance at all to the question you asked nor the answer i gave. Just stop.
Last edited by gh0un on Mar 19, 2013, 5:25:50 PM
Agree that it's pointless. Disagree that its been me entirely misinterpreting the message. You have misinterpreted me just as much as I have with you. This thread being made by you does not afford you immunity from fault.


If you hadn't been argumentative and even downright rude to begin with, this whole pointless debate wouldnt have occured, and we'd still be bouncing ideas on this builds strengths even now. Really a shame.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+

My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
i been trying to make a 5off 6link its driving me mad

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