[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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Wermine wrote:
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loonger wrote:

You don't need Doryani unless you are pushing for Shaper/Guardians. Look for rare sceptre with high "elemental dmg" and "fire dmg" and "cast speed". Do NOT look for "spell dmg".


Doryani's is not needed for those either.


That cost 20c at the middle of breach league. Cleared guardians and shaper well.

The Dark Seer costs about an fuse/chaos now in Legacy league. It's very good for mana sustain and damage isn't bad either.



Nice scepter :D

Yeah, while Doryani has really nice DPS, it is not mandatory. OP finished a Shaper service run with Lvl19 Flameblast. The damage is not a concern in this build. At the time when OP published this guide the price of Doryani was like 1c each. Now it kinda become a luxury for the build lol.
Last edited by loonger#5545 on Mar 8, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
lol grats on mathilificating doryani's :)

anyway by the time scrubs like me get to tiers 13-14 when it will increase the QoL it will prolly be like 20c so definitely better.


Second-class poe gamer
Last edited by pr13st#1040 on Mar 8, 2017, 10:33:29 AM


Thoughts on Doedre's Scorn? Seems beefy with tri-curse and actually usable with the ES buff. Been using it since I haven't found a decent ES helm yet.

Mine's a low roll too. Max rolled you would see 60% more damage on cursed enemies.

The biggest drawback is the lack of resistance IMO.
Last edited by oOSlushyOo#5946 on Mar 8, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
I feel that my damage is lacking alot vs bosses.
Took me a while to down merc lab iz.

My current gear:



Chance to ignite: 68%
Tooltip flameblast: 1767
Cast per second: 8.26

Normal, Cruel, Merc Lab done.

7.4k ES atm.
Are you switching to Concentrated Effect when facing a boss?

Your sceptre could greatly benefit from +% Fire Damage mod.

I haven't run Merc Lab yet, although I should...but I'm often one shotting bosses in t4 maps running 4L with this gear:



My sceptre is far from optimal with all that spell damage but it does the trick until I can manage purchasing something more suitable. I am also just using my chest to level gems at the moment...since I still lack anything above a 4L
Last edited by oOSlushyOo#5946 on Mar 8, 2017, 2:11:45 PM
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oOSlushyOo wrote:
Are you switching to Concentrated Effect when facing a boss?

Your sceptre could greatly benefit from +% Fire Damage mod.

I haven't run Merc Lab yet, although I should...but I'm often one shotting bosses in t4 maps running 4L with this gear:



My sceptre is far from optimal with all that spell damage but it does the trick until I can manage purchasing something more suitable. I am also just using my chest to level gems at the moment...since I still lack anything above a 4L



Yeah i'm far from one shotting bosses, no idea what's going on. :/


Bought this for 5ex, lol. Dunno if i should go for QuadCurse or use 4 points from the tree. Any ideas? :D

Or maybe i can drop the doedre ring, its pretty shitty. A nice opal ring would shine on that spot.

Doedre helm would be insane with 4 curses i guess :D SO many possibilities
Last edited by makingmericagreatagain#2999 on Mar 8, 2017, 6:15:28 PM
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makingmericagreatagain wrote:


Bought this for 5ex, lol. Dunno if i should go for QuadCurse or use 4 points from the tree. Any ideas? :D

Or maybe i can drop the doedre ring, its pretty shitty. A nice opal ring would shine on that spot.

Doedre helm would be insane with 4 curses i guess :D SO many possibilities


Drop the Doedre ring and get 2x Eleron rings - preferable the ES ones. Worked like a charm for me last league :-) Being able to mastercraft % ES on both rings realy beefs up the ES when you get that far.
Even with Doryanis, I feel like I'm doing next to no damage and have awful cast speed. I have exactly the setup you have but Flameblast is both slow and weak, and I have no idea what more I could do with the build to make it better. Proliferation has tiny range and I often don't ignite even with Chance to Ignite slotted. Also, I have gear very similar to yours yet still have 3.7k tooltip rather than 5k, so I have no idea what's gone wrong there unless your jewels are somehow getting you more than 1k tooltip. I'm considering just replacing Chance to Ignite with Faster Casting to make the build at least feel less awful. Doing 3-stack flameblast on trash packs as you suggested still barely dents them. The character is Never_Know_Best, if you want to see the actual char.
Last edited by somesortofthing#4797 on Mar 8, 2017, 7:54:11 PM
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somesortofthing wrote:
Even with Doryanis, I feel like I'm doing next to no damage and have awful cast speed. I have exactly the setup you have but Flameblast is both slow and weak, and I have no idea what more I could do with the build to make it better. Proliferation has tiny range and I often don't ignite even with Chance to Ignite slotted. Also, I have gear very similar to yours yet still have 3.7k tooltip rather than 5k, so I have no idea what's gone wrong there unless your jewels are somehow getting you more than 1k tooltip. I'm considering just replacing Chance to Ignite with Faster Casting to make the build at least feel less awful. Doing 3-stack flameblast on trash packs as you suggested still barely dents them. The character is Never_Know_Best, if you want to see the actual char.

Any chance you are linking Elemental Focus to FB?

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