[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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somesortofthing wrote:
Even with Doryanis, I feel like I'm doing next to no damage and have awful cast speed. I have exactly the setup you have but Flameblast is both slow and weak, and I have no idea what more I could do with the build to make it better. Proliferation has tiny range and I often don't ignite even with Chance to Ignite slotted. Also, I have gear very similar to yours yet still have 3.7k tooltip rather than 5k, so I have no idea what's gone wrong there unless your jewels are somehow getting you more than 1k tooltip. I'm considering just replacing Chance to Ignite with Faster Casting to make the build at least feel less awful. Doing 3-stack flameblast on trash packs as you suggested still barely dents them. The character is Never_Know_Best, if you want to see the actual char.


Can't see your characters. I think you need to set to public 3.7k tooltip should be crushing trash packs. Do you have first 6 ascendency points?

I did some maps on stream today but was lagging a bunch...poe was not liking my connection today. Www.twitch.tv/jthebes - I have all labs done and gear was posted back a page or so.

None of the maps were anything insane but still the same for any T11-13s I've done so far.
Last edited by teebeewhy#7433 on Mar 9, 2017, 12:19:36 AM
Same for me, i feel like i'm pretty weak in defense and even in damage...cannot do breaches my ES shield cannot regen in time...

My character is e_n_o if someone can look at it !
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Eko13 wrote:
Same for me, i feel like i'm pretty weak in defense and even in damage...cannot do breaches my ES shield cannot regen in time...

My character is e_n_o if someone can look at it !


get ele equil, get whispers of doom, get doedre's ring

set up OoS with flamability and ele weakness and blasphemy with temp chains

more ES on helmet and shield and body armor for starters.

when flambeblast 5l get elreon ring with -7 or -8.

Second-class poe gamer
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pr13st wrote:
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Eko13 wrote:
Same for me, i feel like i'm pretty weak in defense and even in damage...cannot do breaches my ES shield cannot regen in time...

My character is e_n_o if someone can look at it !


get ele equil, get whispers of doom, get doedre's ring

set up OoS with flamability and ele weakness and blasphemy with temp chains

more ES on helmet and shield and body armor for starters.

when flambeblast 5l get elreon ring with -7 or -8.



Got one elreon ring, i don't use doedre because i'm actually using only 2 curses...and i need stats on my rings :/

I spent all my fuses to 5L but over 200 fuses and still no 5L (while it cost 150..) sniff

got whispers of doom next is elem equil yes :)

Thanks for input !
Last edited by Eko13#2933 on Mar 9, 2017, 6:08:22 AM






Going double elreon rings with +1 chayula, my mana just don't move with 5L :D

I need regals though.

As i totally hate the totems OP mechanic but still wanted to try a powerfull build i came here.

Leveling using Firestom for now, I'v tryied to use pizza(with EP suppo) but i feel I lack cast speed and the gameplay seems ultra clunky specially against moving mobs. (even if I link a cast speed support to the pizza).

Is there a point in stuff progress where it become smooth to play?


I still can save up for regrets tho.



Also I wanted to thx you for this guide which is really easy to understand, up to date and rich.
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GranTib wrote:

Is there a point in stuff progress where it become smooth to play?



I'd say this is a tough one because it is kinda a personal preference. I am crushing mobs and bosses but I still would like more cast speed. I may throw faster casting on if I ever get a 6L just for the QoL. But I don't feel that I really *need* it. I am closing in on level 90 at this point though and just have the flask nodes to get.

I just went back and forth between firestorm and FB as I was leveling to see how FB felt. I was doing really well with firestorm so I didn't swap until 70+
Last edited by teebeewhy#7433 on Mar 9, 2017, 8:02:15 AM
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Eko13 wrote:
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pr13st wrote:
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Eko13 wrote:
Same for me, i feel like i'm pretty weak in defense and even in damage...cannot do breaches my ES shield cannot regen in time...

My character is e_n_o if someone can look at it !


get ele equil, get whispers of doom, get doedre's ring

set up OoS with flamability and ele weakness and blasphemy with temp chains

more ES on helmet and shield and body armor for starters.

when flambeblast 5l get elreon ring with -7 or -8.



Got one elreon ring, i don't use doedre because i'm actually using only 2 curses...and i need stats on my rings :/

I spent all my fuses to 5L but over 200 fuses and still no 5L (while it cost 150..) sniff

got whispers of doom next is elem equil yes :)

Thanks for input !


I prioritized the doedre ring over the chayula, stun is really not an issue for me (I might be the only one) last league did CI and only got stunlocked in t15 and by Esh.

actually getting stunned makes the flameblast detonate if you were casting it and it usually makes the source of stun go away :)

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GranTib wrote:
As i totally hate the totems OP mechanic but still wanted to try a powerfull build i came here.

Leveling using Firestom for now, I'v tryied to use pizza(with EP suppo) but i feel I lack cast speed and the gameplay seems ultra clunky specially against moving mobs. (even if I link a cast speed support to the pizza).

Is there a point in stuff progress where it become smooth to play?


I still can save up for regrets tho.



Also I wanted to thx you for this guide which is really easy to understand, up to date and rich.


Yes, after the cruel lab when you get prolif and swap prolif gem with chance to ignite (and hopefully transition to the 5l).
Second-class poe gamer
Last edited by pr13st#1040 on Mar 9, 2017, 8:12:21 AM
I have a cast time speed of 0.10 secs and i still feel very slow. (i got Faster Casting on 5th link)

I hope it becomes better after i buy a doryani.
After the aoe nerf in 2.6, someone tried the Explosive Impact nodes, over the Alchemy one? It has fire damage, fast cast and increased AoE.

Edit: forgot to mention, what do you think of these uniques for the build:

* The Beast Fur Shawl (not so expensive, aoe, shield recharge, spell damage)
* Doryiani belt with fire damage (some strength and 2 decent resists, also very cheap and has leech... combined with doryiani's sceptre someone might want to try ghost reaver, IDK)
Last edited by calavera_#5497 on Mar 9, 2017, 2:51:53 PM

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