[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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sklipnoty wrote:
Tried both self-cast and totems

I like totems more;

Atziri down really izi :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL-M61pKeJE

Gear: (mind you helmet is upgraded already so I didn't have enchant when doing the run)

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Link to your passive tree?

I feel like I like the totem version far better...except I followed the OP tree for self cast.
Im converting over from a self Cast arc build with the recent tree reset, and I had a few questions.

I have a few wands from my old spec, but I read your guide saying Spell damage is inferior for this build. Would you mind explaining that? Im not an expert, I usually just find a skill I like, read a few builds/guides then follow an example tree while tweaking it for my own play style.

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Above are the current wands I have, and the Doryani's Catalyst I currently have. A perfect Doryani would have 10% cast speed and 132% ele damage. Im assuming there is a reason why ele damage is better? Since a standard wand can have over double the cast speed (as my linked wands show) which would result in faster stacks.
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Rashaken wrote:
Im converting over from a self Cast arc build with the recent tree reset, and I had a few questions.

I have a few wands from my old spec, but I read your guide saying Spell damage is inferior for this build. Would you mind explaining that? Im not an expert, I usually just find a skill I like, read a few builds/guides then follow an example tree while tweaking it for my own play style.

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Above are the current wands I have, and the Doryani's Catalyst I currently have. A perfect Doryani would have 10% cast speed and 132% ele damage. Im assuming there is a reason why ele damage is better? Since a standard wand can have over double the cast speed (as my linked wands show) which would result in faster stacks.


spell damage does not double dip.

%elemental damage and %fire damage double dips.
Second-class poe gamer
Anyone mind to share a video of normal mapping (not just bossfights) with this build ?
I'm lvl 75 now with still pretty bad gear and i feel like this build plays really slow. So i would like to see where i can improve with my general playstyle.
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Arrensen wrote:
Anyone mind to share a video of normal mapping (not just bossfights) with this build ?
I'm lvl 75 now with still pretty bad gear and i feel like this build plays really slow. So i would like to see where i can improve with my general playstyle.


I second this, a "normal day" type vid with tips to playstyle would be greatly appreciated!
I like this build, it has pros and cons, i feel some weak right now but to be fair my gear is crap. The only downsize of this build its the promise of "budget starter build", thats why i choose this build before the whispering ice tri-curse elementalist (astramentis doesn't come free)
But to be competitive to start farming some content i feel Doryani its needed and the price its around 60c, so not so budget for me after all... i feel pizza sticks its cheaper

But having fun right now so i dont complain, saving currency to get Doryiani and leveling to make cruel lab quick and safe , to get prolif and change the gem to CE/iAOE

Im thankful to the poster who said the tip about Decoy totem, make wonders while leveling with bosses, chests, breaches,...
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xonsuns wrote:
I like this build, it has pros and cons, i feel some weak right now but to be fair my gear is crap. The only downsize of this build its the promise of "budget starter build", thats why i choose this build before the whispering ice tri-curse elementalist (astramentis doesn't come free)
But to be competitive to start farming some content i feel Doryani its needed and the price its around 60c, so not so budget for me after all... i feel pizza sticks its cheaper

But having fun right now so i dont complain, saving currency to get Doryiani and leveling to make cruel lab quick and safe , to get prolif and change the gem to CE/iAOE

Im thankful to the poster who said the tip about Decoy totem, make wonders while leveling with bosses, chests, breaches,...


I can't stress this enough, but don't use scepters with "adds fire to spells" with elemental equilibrium because it will work like this:

1. cast OOS - lightning and fire damage -> resistances increased for lightning and fire
2. cast flameblast on a mob resistant to fire - not good.

Can someone confirm this, and maybe OP can add it to the guide.
Second-class poe gamer
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pr13st wrote:
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xonsuns wrote:
I like this build, it has pros and cons, i feel some weak right now but to be fair my gear is crap. The only downsize of this build its the promise of "budget starter build", thats why i choose this build before the whispering ice tri-curse elementalist (astramentis doesn't come free)
But to be competitive to start farming some content i feel Doryani its needed and the price its around 60c, so not so budget for me after all... i feel pizza sticks its cheaper

But having fun right now so i dont complain, saving currency to get Doryiani and leveling to make cruel lab quick and safe , to get prolif and change the gem to CE/iAOE

Im thankful to the poster who said the tip about Decoy totem, make wonders while leveling with bosses, chests, breaches,...


I can't stress this enough, but don't use scepters with "adds fire to spells" with elemental equilibrium because it will work like this:

1. cast OOS - lightning and fire damage -> resistances increased for lightning and fire
2. cast flameblast on a mob resistant to fire - not good.

Can someone confirm this, and maybe OP can add it to the guide.



Very interesting.. if confirmed is an important point for the build
How does this build deal with ES regen? Do you just hope you don't get hit frequently or?
Why do we take " Elemental Equilibrium " btw?
By just looking at what it does, it makes no sense.
But maybe there's something i'm missing? :)

If it means we have to do Orb of Storms for everything then that's extremely painful.
Or is the damage high enough, to skip orb on all packs except bosses?
Last edited by Mahjiza#2790 on Mar 8, 2017, 6:38:18 AM

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