[old build] Doomfletch's Prism Elementalist (Budget and strong) [Top30 PHC]

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superenatus wrote:
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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:
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superenatus wrote:
Hey OP, i just wanted to ask you why you took the shortest route to Piercing Shots node, combining piercing support gem, drillneck and the shortest route to Piercing Shots node i get about 90% pierce, is this enough?, do you have 100% pierce on your build, or should i grab the longer route which is 4 nodes to get that 100% pierce, and is that really important, would it escalate the damage overall greatly or is it a minor thing.

Thanks for this build, really having fun with it :)


You get 50% from pierce gem, 40% short tree route, and 10% from drillneck implicit :)

You do want 100% pierce. The time you want to go the 4 node route 50% pierce is if you have a nice corrupted drillneck (+1 arrow).



You're absolutely right, it's just weird that my tooltip Split Arrow said 90% chance of projectiles piercing, but taking a better look at the character sheet and then realizing it said 100% just confused me, but it's quite clear it's 100%... right?


If you are looking at your tooltip DPS, it will say 90% pierce chance; it doesn't take into account drillneck. However, if you look at your character sheet under offense (make sure you have your actual attack selected) it will say 100% pierce chance.

Tooltip information has always been buggy... :(
17/04/2021 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3082616/page/1
"We tell people that Path of Exile league starts are a fair playing field for everyone, and we need to actually make sure that is the reality."

A BLATANT LIE by the HMFIIC.
Perhaps GGG should consider a leadership change.
Last edited by Bjorn_Angannon#7300 on Jul 3, 2016, 7:09:40 PM
Would using Lightning Arrow with GMP be better for this build? We lose some AoE damage if the mobs aren't clustered but we get to use Frost Wall for the single target, and the damage seems high enough vs packs anyways. Any hidden mechanic that makes LA lose damage with this bow?

Another Question, have you tried an abyssus with this build?

Thks for the reply
Last edited by ArsaPoE#7598 on Jul 3, 2016, 7:42:45 PM
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ArsaPoE wrote:
Would using Lightning Arrow with GMP be better for this build? We lose some AoE damage if the mobs aren't clustered but we get to use Frost Wall for the single target, and the damage seems high enough vs packs anyways. Any hidden mechanic that makes LA lose damage with this bow?

Another Question, have you tried an abyssus with this build?

Thks for the reply


I didn't test LA too much, but my main issue with it was the lower spread. Split is a nice big cone that can cover the screen. LA would be better with +1 arrow drillneck. Still a solid option, up to you.

Abyssus isn't really HC viable on evasion builds, and the damage is good enough without it.
IGN: @Oos
Last edited by Oos#6742 on Jul 3, 2016, 7:49:51 PM
Oos, in a 6l SA setup, have you considered/tried dropping FA and using Rapid Decay for 39% more burn?


Edit: BTW, I found a con to this build....it is too damned easy to miss/hard to find drops when loot filter sounds ROFL since we move so fast.
17/04/2021 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3082616/page/1
"We tell people that Path of Exile league starts are a fair playing field for everyone, and we need to actually make sure that is the reality."

A BLATANT LIE by the HMFIIC.
Perhaps GGG should consider a leadership change.
Last edited by Bjorn_Angannon#7300 on Jul 3, 2016, 9:25:54 PM
On the previous page people were discussing taking force shaper; it seems not worth to me vs. Aspect of the Eagle into Aspect of the Lynx.

Force shaper gives you 71% inc phys damage, 5% phys damage as chaos (very minimal, since phys damage is only 25% of our actual base dps and isn't increased by elemental/doesn't affect ignite), and 10% inc chaos damage, along with a 10 int travel node for 6 points.

Assuming you are already taking ballistic mastery which I assume most are by late game, you can then spend 6 points on: 82% inc phys damage, 3% attack speed, 20% accuracy rating, 10 base life, 8% inc movement speed, 10int, 10dex, 20% inc crit chance. You can also spend an extra 2 points to get another 8% attack speed and 16% phys damage.

Seems way better than force shaper and costs the same points. BTW: This all assumes that you are still getting written in blood; this is only counting the points after written in blood.
Last edited by Pathological#1188 on Jul 4, 2016, 12:09:58 AM
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Pathological wrote:
On the previous page people were discussing taking force shaper; it seems not worth to me vs. Aspect of the Eagle into Aspect of the Lynx.

Force shaper gives you 71% inc phys damage, 5% phys damage as chaos (very minimal, since phys damage is only 25% of our actual base dps and isn't increased by elemental/doesn't affect ignite), and 10% inc chaos damage, along with a 10 int travel node for 6 points.

Assuming you are already taking ballistic mastery which I assume most are by late game, you can then spend 6 points on: 82% inc phys damage, 3% attack speed, 20% accuracy rating, 10 base life, 8% inc movement speed, 10int, 10dex, 20% inc crit chance. You can also spend an extra 2 points to get another 8% attack speed and 16% phys damage.

Seems way better than force shaper and costs the same points. BTW: This all assumes that you are still getting written in blood; this is only counting the points after written in blood.



Arh nice man, yeah what youre suggesting is a bit better assuming that its just str/f math, though dont forget that phys is 100% of our dmg excluding ignite.. Either way, im gonna test it out and burn another 10regret



-bazzz
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bazzzzzzz wrote:
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Pathological wrote:
On the previous page people were discussing taking force shaper; it seems not worth to me vs. Aspect of the Eagle into Aspect of the Lynx.

Force shaper gives you 71% inc phys damage, 5% phys damage as chaos (very minimal, since phys damage is only 25% of our actual base dps and isn't increased by elemental/doesn't affect ignite), and 10% inc chaos damage, along with a 10 int travel node for 6 points.

Assuming you are already taking ballistic mastery which I assume most are by late game, you can then spend 6 points on: 82% inc phys damage, 3% attack speed, 20% accuracy rating, 10 base life, 8% inc movement speed, 10int, 10dex, 20% inc crit chance. You can also spend an extra 2 points to get another 8% attack speed and 16% phys damage.

Seems way better than force shaper and costs the same points. BTW: This all assumes that you are still getting written in blood; this is only counting the points after written in blood.



Arh nice man, yeah what youre suggesting is a bit better assuming that its just str/f math, though dont forget that phys is 100% of our dmg excluding ignite.. Either way, im gonna test it out and burn another 10regret



-bazzz
Yep, but if you are after more proj damage, ballistic mastery gives 15% for essentially 2p, then opens up what I was talking about there, AND the 5 starter projectile damage nodes for ranger if you really want them (56% proj damage, 4%AS for 5 points).
proj nodes and elemental nodes are much better than straight up phys nodes because they double dip on the burn, anyways i didn't find it necessary to take too many damage nodes, i took only shadow elemental and duelist proj nodes as far as damage nodes outside of jewel slots go

idk i find single target more than tolerable and wouldn't switch to la especially if you can get your hands on a split arrow enchant, LA lowers my clear speed by roughly 30% and enables me to do t14 bosses

sweet except t14 maps aren't worth running and i sell them and buy myself 3 t12 instead, out of all lower tier bosses i found only village ruin too dangerous to have to skip, which is a bummer but idk i wouldn't gimp my overall speed just to be able to do that 1 boss, it's not worth the tradeoff




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Is the LA + Frost Wall mechanic still working? I tried that setup and it didn't proc in the frost wall at all. I ended up just using split arrow for Izaro merciless, it was a pain in the ass, but it is doable.
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pedrofell wrote:
Is the LA + Frost Wall mechanic still working? I tried that setup and it didn't proc in the frost wall at all. I ended up just using split arrow for Izaro merciless, it was a pain in the ass, but it is doable.


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I am running this build and it works very well (lvl83 now, PHC ofc), but lacks hard at bosses.
I clear a T10 map in 2 mins, but it takes me 5 mins to kill the Boss.

I'd love to see this issue fixed..
Vaal Burning arrow with GMP and Trap is a little help, but no real benefit for a strong Boss

Currently using split arrow.

Here's my gear by the way


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