[old build] Doomfletch's Prism Elementalist (Budget and strong) [Top30 PHC]

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Pupalaka wrote:

How you deal with heavy physical hits?

We evade and dodge a Lot but there is almost no reduction if you get hit or am i missing something?
Also no vaal grace used

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Oos wrote:

Lets presume that with all gear your base phys is 10-20 (will be way higher, using this to simplify this explanation). Then 10-20 is added as each element, leaving you with 10-20phys, 10-20light, 10-20cold, 10-20fire. So 80-160 combined damage. The tooltip for this bow is inaccurate, it does not show your added damage.

Now, how to scale this higher. Projectile Damage triple dips with this bow.
Say we have 100% projectile damage. The 10-20 phys damage becomes 20-40. The ele damage is added from that 20-40 (20-40 x3), then scaled by the 100% projectile damage to be 40-80(x3). Then at the end, Elementalist burns are based off the total damage, and the burn damage is scaled by projectile damage too (silly ggg).
So that’s 20-40 + (40-80 x 3) + burn damage.

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Corsal8 wrote:

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Oos wrote:

Lets presume that with all gear your base phys is 10-20 (will be way higher, using this to simplify this explanation). Then 10-20 is added as each element, leaving you with 10-20phys, 10-20light, 10-20cold, 10-20fire. So 80-160 combined damage. The tooltip for this bow is inaccurate, it does not show your added damage.

Now, how to scale this higher. Projectile Damage triple dips with this bow.
Say we have 100% projectile damage. The 10-20 phys damage becomes 20-40. The ele damage is added from that 20-40 (20-40 x3), then scaled by the 100% projectile damage to be 40-80(x3). Then at the end, Elementalist burns are based off the total damage, and the burn damage is scaled by projectile damage too (silly ggg).
So that’s 20-40 + (40-80 x 3) + burn damage.

Actually damage conversion doesn't work this way.

If you have 10-20 phys damage and 100% proj damage, you end up with 20-40 phys, 20-40 fire, 20-40 cold and 20-40 light. But these elemental damages won't be modified by 100% proj damage anymore. With damage conversion, you can never double dip (source: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_conversion).
If you would be able to double dip "added damage" with proj damage, gems such as Added fire dmg or Phys to Light would be simply OP.

As stated in the wiki "Converted damage is affected by modifiers that apply to be both the original damage type it was converted from, and the new damage type that is was converted to." but not in a multiplicative way, as for any other conversion.

The only "double dip" you get, is from burning damage. In that case the burning damage is calculated as 20% of your fire damage (without conflux) or as 20% of your total damage (with conflux up) and then further modified by proj damage, fire damage, burning damage, elemental damage etc.

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hTwo wrote:

With Leige of Primordial, Flame Golem is clear best, but is Lightning Golem really better than Stone Golem?

I suppose the main benefit of Lightning Golem is the double buffed attack speed, and the increased lightning damage is very minor, but I can't help but feel 40% increased physical damage is stronger than 9% extra attack speed and 40% lightning damage.

Damage high enough that attack speed is the only thing that matters I guess?

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Oos wrote:

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Pupalaka wrote:

How you deal with heavy physical hits?

We evade and dodge a Lot but there is almost no reduction if you get hit or am i missing something?
Also no vaal grace used

Daresso's Defiance and CWDT+Immortal Call. 6k+ life (currently at 6.4k). Basalt Flask too.

You could use Vaal Grace instead of Haste if you prefer.