New Low-Level Uniques

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Peripherally wrote:

I can understand why some might be upset at adding more low level uniques to a pool of stuff most regret seeing drop when they're mapping. After all, the grind of maps is the hardest of all and seeing the effort rewarding by a drop that's good for a char 50-60 levels lower is a bit of a letdown (ok maybe a big letdown).

Probably these new low level items will be fun to look at for the first few weeks, then once people have leveled they'll become redundant and space filler. Seems like an eventuality, but I do have a suggestion that might be able to change all of that.

Suggestion for GGG:
What if every unique was tied to a specific drop table limited mainly/especially by level? For example if a level 20 unique only drops in level 17-23 areas, and so on. I imagine this would lead to much less frustration for both higher and lower level characters, since they'd be more likely to find drops that are relevant to their progression. To help compensate for the resultant limiting of uniques that could drop, the overall frequency of uniques dropping could also be increased for every area. This might also lead to high level chars farming some lower level areas as they may want to build around a certain item, accomplishing the same goal as GGG stated for their Divination cards: that is, to encourage people to farm certain areas in order to find specific items. You could solve a ton of problems people have looking for uniques to enable builds, and for especially powerful ones, their scarcity could be still be regulated even if overall unique drops were to be increased for each area level.

I'll make a post for this in the Suggestion forum as well, this seems like a legit idea (barring stuff I haven't foreseen).

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Felifix wrote:

I am all for taking some of the truly useless uniques out of the game, thus increasing the drop chance for the good ones. I mean do we really need like 300+ uniques of which only 1-200 are remotely useful?

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Felifix wrote:

I am all for taking some of the truly useless uniques out of the game, thus increasing the drop chance for the good ones. I mean do we really need like 300+ uniques of which only 1-200 are remotely useful?

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TikoXi wrote:

The problem is, GGG did it this way specifically for a reason. What that reason was, I don't know, and I'm not sure if anyone does. (I dont even know if GGG does anymore).

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mucker wrote:

It is not true.
When the game rolls a drop it first asks is it unique or not.
If it is a unique then it picks it from the unique table.
New uniques do not diminish the chance to get other uniques.
The chance a drop will be unique goes up slightly every time a unique is added.

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x_KOR_x wrote:

If it were like that, than it would be even worse because if after you guarantee that a unique will drop... and then!!! It would pick from the "huge" pool of all the uniques.
Unless it goes by the base type next. Which ends up being the same as i explained. But that only GGG can confirm.

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TikoXi wrote:

Without a rewrite of the item generation code, I don't think this is possible. I think in order for that to happen, GGG would have to change it so that unique rarity is rolled the same as normal/magic/rare - that is: After the item base was determined. There are no LL uniques on high ilevel item bases, so that would solve that problem immediately.

The problem is, GGG did it this way specifically for a reason. What that reason was, I don't know, and I'm not sure if anyone does. (I dont even know if GGG does anymore).

I cordially invite them to revisit that particular bit of code and examine the reasoning why it's different. You can keep it the same, you can change it - that's your call. I would just like you to refresh yourselves on why it is the way that it is. :3 (and if you would tell us too, that'd be great ;3 )