New Low-Level Uniques

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Carlovski wrote:

I like low level uniques, I like rolling new characters and I like having that spike where you feel OP for at least a few levels.
Also the fact for a lot of casual players these kind of uniques are the only ones they are ever likely to find. And at least they will get used unlike a number of the unique jewellery pieces and body armours.

One thing I would like to see though is enhanced drop rates for low/mid level uniques on first time boss kill. The drops are so often underwhelming, especially for new players. Getting something cool when you kill Brutus/Merveil is more likely to get players hooked into the game.
And low level stuff won't be valuable enough to tempt people into building characters to rush bosses, so wouldn't affect the economy too much.
In fact I'd like it much more if a bunch of these starter uniques were considered to be of similar power and value, so rather than players saying 'What can I sell this for', we had more of a barter economy where they would say 'I've got a lifesprig - can anyone swap with me for the unique sword?'

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tokimeki2003 wrote:

Yay For more Crappy uniques that nobody will use! \o/

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geradon wrote:

interesting stats and very nice artwork / design.

for those players who only want to find endgame uniques: there is a item filter option, just use it.

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x_KOR_x wrote:

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That is not how it works. when you kill a monster, open a box or break pots/barrels the game predetermines the base item and its item level (zone level/monster level). Let's say it's a Imperial Bow. Then the game "asks itself" Is it a unique? No. then, is it a rare? No, and so on...
If it is a unique, then the game will select one from the pool of possible Imperial Bows uniques, is it a Lioneye's Glare, is it a Windripper? (one might be rarer than the other)
In this case there are only 2, but there are items with more and with every unique added to the same base your chances get slimmer.

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Erib_Segsir wrote:

Well, I'm pretty sure this is not how it works, or at least not how it worked some time ago. I remember reading somewhere, that this applies to normal/magic/rare items. Uniques are rolled seperately, so that if you get a drop, it is checked if it is a unique before the base is determined. That's the reason why you can get f.e. unique gloves from a cartographer's strongbox.

Btw. if it worked the way, you explained, the addition of low level uniques wouldnt effect the drop rates of high level uniques at all because it wouldnt affect the droprate of gavel/siegeaxe base items...

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x_KOR_x wrote:

That is not how it works. when you kill a monster, open a box or break pots/barrels the game predetermines the base item and its item level (zone level/monster level). Let's say it's a Imperial Bow. Then the game "asks itself" Is it a unique? No. then, is it a rare? No, and so on...
If it is a unique, then the game will select one from the pool of possible Imperial Bows uniques, is it a Lioneye's Glare, is it a Windripper? (one might be rarer than the other)
In this case there are only 2, but there are items with more and with every unique added to the same base your chances get slimmer.

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Erib_Segsir wrote:

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x_KOR_x wrote:

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That is not how it works. when you kill a monster, open a box or break pots/barrels the game predetermines the base item and its item level (zone level/monster level). Let's say it's a Imperial Bow. Then the game "asks itself" Is it a unique? No. then, is it a rare? No, and so on...
If it is a unique, then the game will select one from the pool of possible Imperial Bows uniques, is it a Lioneye's Glare, is it a Windripper? (one might be rarer than the other)
In this case there are only 2, but there are items with more and with every unique added to the same base your chances get slimmer.

Well, I'm pretty sure this is not how it works, or at least not how it worked some time ago. I remember reading somewhere, that this applies to normal/magic/rare items. Uniques are rolled seperately, so that if you get a drop, it is checked if it is a unique before the base is determined. That's the reason why you can get f.e. unique gloves from a cartographer's strongbox.

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Erib_Segsir wrote:

Btw. if it worked the way, you explained, the addition of low level uniques wouldnt effect the drop rates of high level uniques at all because it wouldnt affect the droprate of gavel/siegeaxe base items...

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Adser wrote:

Oh please lets be honest, real low level players barely get any unique drops, so the chance of they getting a unique that helps them is really low and going higher each time you add one of this uniques.

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WiseGuard wrote:

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x_KOR_x wrote:

That is not how it works. when you kill a monster, open a box or break pots/barrels the game predetermines the base item and its item level (zone level/monster level). Let's say it's a Imperial Bow. Then the game "asks itself" Is it a unique? No. then, is it a rare? No, and so on...
If it is a unique, then the game will select one from the pool of possible Imperial Bows uniques, is it a Lioneye's Glare, is it a Windripper? (one might be rarer than the other)
In this case there are only 2, but there are items with more and with every unique added to the same base your chances get slimmer.

Is it true or maybe there's some info on that matter?

Quite interesting solution.

Always thought its just a datatable with item list and roll values.